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Hangin' Out In The Holler
Haunted Legends and Cryptid Chronicles: A Journey Through Laughter and the Supernatural: Feat. Lyle Russell EPI 221
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Get ready for Lyle, Podcaster of the show "Tennessee Ghosts and Legends Podcast," as he tells the tales, spooks, and specters come to life as we explore haunted locations and urban legends that will leave you chilled and intrigued. Lyle guides us through creepy cemeteries and notorious prisons, weaving together personal encounters, historical facts, and the eerie folklore surrounding these sites. Whether it's mysterious noises in childhood homes or ghostly voices at Remington Pond, our stories blur the lines between the explainable and the supernatural, sparking both skepticism and belief.
What happens when a Peregrine Falcon meets a "Paraguay Falcon"? Spoiler alert: only one of them is real, and our guest Lyle Russell is here to clear up any bird-related confusion with laughter. Join us as Lyle brings thrilling updates from the Middle Tennessee Raptor Center, including plans for an exciting new eagle enclosure. But that's just the beginning—we also share some hilarious tales from our past episodes, including Donnie's unforgettable "so bad it was good" performance and a bout of unexpected bathroom humor that kept one of us from a raptor rendezvous.
And for those who prefer a lighter touch, we finish the episode with a delightful romp through movie trilogies, cryptid lore, and comedic classics. From our critiques of "Twilight" to nostalgic trips with Jim Varney's Ernest, we celebrate films that have left a lasting impression. Our fascination with cryptids like the Jersey Devil and Chupacabra adds a whimsical twist, proving that whether it's through laughter, chills, or curiosity, there's a story here for everyone. So buckle up for a rollercoaster of entertainment as we journey through the realms of the mysterious and the humorous.
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all right, everybody. Thanks for coming back to hanging out hanging out in the holler.
Speaker 2:All right, everybody. Thanks for coming back to Hanging Out. Hanging Out in the Holler I screwed that up earlier At least.
Speaker 1:So we just got back from Donnie's performance. Yeah, we have really bad performance. So, yeah, it was so bad, it was good. Yeah, it really was. Yeah, so bad, it was good, so bad it was good. I don't know why Jason butchered the name. What did you call it? I called it happenings in the holler. Happenings in the holler. It's fine, though. Alright, everybody, we have tonight with us Lyle Russell. He was on a couple months ago. Our good friend Lyle, how you been man doing great good, good thanks for having me back.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh yeah. So last time you were on it was more about, uh, you were with your wife and we were talking with the birds, right, right, um, the raptors, right I'm sorry, I missed that one.
Speaker 4:I think I wasn't here either.
Speaker 1:I was on the camera. I'm going to make it look better. Yeah, you weren't. I know you weren't. That was the first time I did a podcast by myself. I was solo that night.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you were telling us that's the first time you've done one by yourself in a long time, in a long long time.
Speaker 2:I think it was at the time I had explosive diarrhea. Yes, it was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you were coming and I was like good, and then you didn't show up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I sent a message and I think I was like I had to put crime scene tape around my toilet? I don't know what's going on, but I had to.
Speaker 4:It might have been my birthday or something, or I might still be hanging out in Florida.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't know, but I watched most of it on my phone, watching everything else. It was really interesting. I was like man, I'd really like to be there. Yeah, part of that, because those birds are very birdy, you're correct, they're interesting, they're feathery. Their hunting abilities is what is amazing their eyesight, their hunting abilities, and I know you didn't have the Paraguay falcon with you.
Speaker 3:No, we were going to bring a bird, but uh, ben said nah, probably shouldn't in a restaurant, so that's okay but hearing you talk about everything else, I didn't think you brought anything with it.
Speaker 2:but like that, if there's a special on uh, one of the the educational tvs, oh yeah, and it's about the Paraguay Falcon, you've got me locked down. I watched Eagles and Hawks. The Paraguay Falcon is hitting 230, 400, 300 miles an hour.
Speaker 3:It's crazy. It's Peregrine. Paraguay is a country, but that's okay, it's.
Speaker 4:Peregrine Falcon. Why didn't somebody correct me? You were going straight into it. I didn't want to kill your thunder.
Speaker 3:That's okay, you're passionate about it. Paraguay yeah.
Speaker 1:What about the? I love the Paraguay falcon better.
Speaker 3:They have falcons in Paraguay. There may be one.
Speaker 1:What about the eagles? How was it coming along with that? Yeah, so we're actually waiting, right now to.
Speaker 3:we've got a grant out there that we're waiting to hear back on and if we get that grant then we'll be able to start building an Eagle enclosure and finish our license to get an Eagle. So we're really excited about that. That's going to be good. If we get that, what about bald eagles? Yeah, bald eagle, a gold eagle, golden eagle, I should say. Tim says golden eagles yeah, and it'd be non-flighted, you know. So it would be one that was rehabbed and couldn't be released.
Speaker 3:Oh gotcha we don't have enough backyard space for a flighted eagle. We'd need a big space for that.
Speaker 2:Those birds are large.
Speaker 1:They're huge you could go to Auburn one day. I've seen it at Auburn, where they have them national anthem and everything.
Speaker 4:Are you saying Auburn, auburn University, yeah, yeah, yeah, nobody ever wants to go there?
Speaker 1:Probably not. What's another bird that I don't think Tennessee's ever done?
Speaker 5:Maybe they've done it once, the Auburn Tigers, but then why do they have a war eagle?
Speaker 2:They got a bird. They got a bird Because one time they were doing something and a turkey buzzard came flying down.
Speaker 4:They tried to say it was an eagle and it really wasn't. They kidnapped an eagle and they made it a train to you. It's all on Netflix. You just go check it out. Netflix has everything.
Speaker 1:Well, it's awesome. So you guys do you have a Facebook page for that?
Speaker 3:We do Middle Tennessee Raptor Center. Yeah, we've got all kinds of stuff on there. I believe you should go back to that episode.
Speaker 4:I think it was in July.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4:The page was tagged Right. You guys bust your ass on that one.
Speaker 3:I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:You really do. That's all volunteer work. For people that don't know that it's not like a job, it's a volunteer.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we have full-time jobs aside from that.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and you're all around everything, so you're an author, also a podcaster, yeah, and you've been doing this for how long now?
Speaker 3:a little over two years now. I started in may of 2022 is when my first episode.
Speaker 1:So tennessee ghost and legends. That's right podcast right, yeah um, and we talked about, I think the first time you'd gotten on, you'd gotten rolling and everything and why was it that you picked that subject? See, that's something I think is really good, yeah.
Speaker 3:So when I first started coming up with the idea of, okay, I want to have a podcast, this should be pretty cool, and I had been on this show actually before I even started it, god invited me over and I saw your setup and all that and how much fun it is, and so I went and bought a cheap rig and started to just, uh, just fool around with it, and when I was looking at you know, I started researching and true crime obviously is the blockbuster. It seems like any true crime podcast even if it's bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, even if it's bad. People, what are they like? The crime porn or whatever murder porn? I don't know well is that what it means, just like a bunch of murder and mystery stuff, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I said my wife watches murder porn Because if you go in her TV, anytime she's watching TV and it's just her. It's some murder show, or it's that TV show Bones, which deals in murder, or the Golden Girls, that's the three things she watches. Golden.
Speaker 5:Girls.
Speaker 2:Bones and other murders. Sometimes it's murder makeup.
Speaker 1:This bitch puts on makeup while she's talking about murders. I've never heard of that one. I'm not lying. Have you.
Speaker 3:I can't say I've seen that one, but I believe you. Oh, here, this is a murder makeup podcast.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, this is a thing.
Speaker 1:I know it is. This is what Benji watches on his free time?
Speaker 3:I don't watch this shit. Fall break, that's the fall break.
Speaker 4:That's what he's doing on fall break Guilty pleasure.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, so they're all about an hour long. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hopefully we don't get yeah, yeah. So, let me play. It takes her an hour to put makeup on. She looks like Angelina from the Jersey Shore. Hang on, hang on. We're going to get an ad, damn it. All right, hang on, hang on, hang on. Well yeah, we're going to get an. Okay, so we'll go into like she's getting worse. Yeah, she's not getting much better.
Speaker 2:There you go. That's a little better.
Speaker 5:This is riveting radio for the people listening.
Speaker 3:That's right. That's right. Well, that's why I did podcasting, because I have a face for radio. So that's how it goes.
Speaker 4:And you were talking about this setup earlier. I hate this setup because me and Bobo can't put it together.
Speaker 3:It kicks our ass.
Speaker 4:Mine isn't much better. It's pretty rough. It takes us 45 minutes to do a three-minute job.
Speaker 2:We had a guest on one time who was watching us struggle, scream, threaten to break stuff. He's waving a damn podcast tonight. They said y'all should be filming that and put that on. That's the best thing I've ever seen it was terrible.
Speaker 3:Yeah, call it the B-sides.
Speaker 1:Hey, y'all did good with the mic and the karaoke out there With.
Speaker 2:Donnie, yeah, yeah, I was proud of y'all. Yeah, we just turned it on. I mean, don't be stressed, Donnie did the rest.
Speaker 1:Donnie did the rest. I was proud of you guys. It is difficult, it is difficult, and that's a good subject right there. So how difficult or was it difficult to start to get the ball rolling, because as a podcaster, it feels like you don't really have that much, you don't have a lot of guidance, you're just, we're out here just doing it. Yeah Well.
Speaker 3:I had two influences that got me into. What I ended up decided to do was ghost stories, and so when I was a kid, my grandmother gave me a book and who knew how prophetic this would be? But y'all may have seen it. Catherine Tucker Windham wrote the 13 Tennessee Ghosts and Jeffrey, and she's got 13 Alabama ghosts and Jeffrey. She had a ghost in her house named Jeffrey.
Speaker 3:But, she lived here in Tennessee and she wrote about southern ghost stories, and so I got that book when I was about eight years old. I was living in Florida. I never even remotely thought I'd live in Tennessee, but I kept it for years. That book's traveled with me all over the place, and so I'd like to read it every now and then, because I like ghost stories. I was a scoutmaster and I like sitting around the campfire with all the kids.
Speaker 5:It's scary yeah classic and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3:So I like to do that, and so when true crime was not in the picture, because I don't look good in makeup.
Speaker 1:Have you ever tried? I don't think it's really going for her man.
Speaker 3:Well, she's probably got a pretty significant phone. Look 7.48 million subscribers.
Speaker 4:She's doing better than we are. She's doing pretty good. She's got about 7.8 million more than we do, that's a given.
Speaker 3:The other thing is I really like the podcast Lore that turned into a TV show on Amazon. All that is is one guy talking and he's got some creepy music that plays in the background, but he covers worldwide strange phenomena and stuff like that. I just wanted to focus on where I live. I like it here. Everybody always told me about the Sadie Baker legend in Coffey County. Let's go out to the cemetery and let's see what it's all about. That was my very first one Went out to the cemetery, found the grave sat there, didn't feel weirded out.
Speaker 1:Anything? Yeah, yeah, was it Also weirded out anything? Yeah, yeah, was it.
Speaker 2:And you guys also go ahead right out of the road. I didn't mean to cut y'all, but you know, not around the road but going towards clark's, we got one of the more famous legends and bell witch, yes, I did one on that one.
Speaker 3:That was my season one finale. Okay, yeah, so I'm up to about 16 now have you ever been to the bell witch cave? I haven't. Every time I drive up there I threaten to do it. It's creepy, creepy.
Speaker 4:Like you said, sadie Baker, I used to take the trainees up there and drop them off.
Speaker 1:What a great training officer you are the trainees, not the trainees, the trainees.
Speaker 4:Like new people that are riding with me. Get out of here. I thought you were like you know. You arrested them and then you threw them out. There, the trainees Like new people that are riding- with me, get out of here free. King of the Week, I thought you were like you know, you arrested him and then you threw him out there. I just dropped him off in one.
Speaker 5:I was like well you're cleaning the city up. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:You drop him off in the county. Is that a county? It is.
Speaker 4:I won't name names, but one night we had this guy go. I won't name names, problem. But one night, um, we had this guy. He was riding with me and granted he was. I look over and we're going down highway 55 and he's I hear. I'm like he's asleep. It's like two, three in the morning.
Speaker 4:I was like, all right, so I'll pull off onto what's that road, uh the one that it's on yeah the cemetery, oh, concord cemetery, I don't remember the road, yeah, yeah I pull off and I park up there and I kind of get out of the car and he wakes up. He's looking around. He's like what's going on? I was like. I was like you ever heard of sadie baker the witch. He's like, yeah, I was like look, I shine like at the headstone. He starts freaking out it's just a gravestone.
Speaker 1:It really is so you didn't hear anything or nothing like that.
Speaker 3:No, but when I went out there, though it was kind of cool, because people still go there. They believe in the legend, which is fine.
Speaker 3:They go there quite often and they leave stuff on the headstone. So when I went out there, there was you know, the coin is the story significance. There was flowers, there was a light-up rose or something like that, but one of the strangest things was there was a green bottle. It was empty, thank goodness, but it said unfiltered poison on the bottle and it was sitting on the headstone and I thought that's really weird, because why would it matter if it's filtered? If it's poison, it's poison. I don't think I'm gonna care about the taste if it's gonna kill me, but yeah, so they had all these strange there was a horseshoe there and so I I took a picture of it. I thought it was pretty cool. And then I happened to talk to somebody who was one of the caretakers and they said that they not that day. It was a different day, but they said they cleaned that grave off all the time. Yeah, people leave stuff on it all the time.
Speaker 4:I'm convinced if you read the witchcraft I think it was she was uh, she's just very beautiful and the women weren't not so beautiful.
Speaker 3:Well, and that's what I found when I started working on a lot of these stories. You know, you start looking at the real stories behind the legend, because even if it's a legend, there's always a just a thread of truth in there somewhere, um, and I actually think that that story. Don't get mad at me out there if you believe in it, but I think that story was made up to be a cautionary tale, probably by somebody who was a big-time churchgoer the town folk back then.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was trying to warn people against the, the sin of envy and jealousy and all that stuff. Um, she was probably just a girl who unfortunately died. Um, but she's not buried there. The lady who was buried there was 68 or something like that when she passed away. So there's real cemetery records that say that.
Speaker 1:Hey y'all. Dano, did I get it right? Sure Dano, no, but yes, dano.
Speaker 4:You got it right for you.
Speaker 1:Dano, you can do it. Hey, askin, have you ever been to Hales Bar?
Speaker 3:H-A-L-E? I have not. Is that the one on the Tennessee River going towards Chattanooga? Right there by the railroad crossing, there's another one.
Speaker 4:Another one asking have you ever heard of Hano Ward Bridge, which I'm pretty sure that's in Alabama?
Speaker 3:I have heard of that one, but I'm not familiar with it.
Speaker 4:If I'm not mistaken, it's just right over the state line, I believe, or something like that.
Speaker 1:The Tennessee River. Yeah, okay, so when you're going, across the Nickajack.
Speaker 3:Right there at the bridge going towards Chattanooga. If you're coming from our way, if you look out to the left down the river, there's like a partial dam that sticks out in the river and supposedly that's one of the most haunted places in tennessee. Um, I haven't done a show on that yet, but it's on my list, so I've got to do a little bit more research on that one before I before I can put together.
Speaker 1:How do you do your research like where do you find? Is it just one source that you find all this from, or where do you, where do you get?
Speaker 3:no, I, you know, of course the internet makes things very easy, but I do have a pretty significant book collection. I'm big history nerd anyway and, uh, you know. So some of those things, I can pluck some of the real history out of the areas that I'm looking for. Um, I do a lot, obviously, a lot, of internet research, um, and when I get the chance, I like to talk to people who live around where it is. I don't always get that opportunity, but those word-of-mouth stories are some of the best ones, because you're not reading something that somebody wrote and says oh, I want to make sure I get plenty of clicks and shares on this one. You actually get somebody telling the verbal story. In my opinion, that's the best part about podcasting. That's the oldest form of communication. Even prehistoric people sat around fires and told stories, you know. So 12 000 years of verbal communication is how this started, and here we are.
Speaker 4:We're not that much further evolved, I suppose but of course you know, you know the whole. What is it?
Speaker 3:the ovoka road old orphanage yeah, the one that burned down in toloma, yeah, you ever been out there I had I where it is. I haven't been to the site yet.
Speaker 4:So we've been out there because back when we were teenagers we got wind and we were always going out there. We didn't realize somebody lived on the property. Oh yeah, but yeah, it gets creepy out there, especially when it gets low light toward the end of the day.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:My buddy. Well, y'all know him, old Tyree, he swears up and down he's seen somebody by the water that disappeared.
Speaker 3:I've heard a few people tell me that the cemetery right outside Public Works. Over there in Tullahoma there's a pretty large cemetery with a. Confederate graveyard there and they've said that they've seen people walking around out there, that there's nobody there Now, of course, you know where the Citizen Cemetery is.
Speaker 4:Yeah, have you ever been out there?
Speaker 5:I have, so I will take this to my grave oh here we go, no pun intended.
Speaker 4:So you know the little forklift shop right behind it, yeah, so we got a call. It was probably about 20, 30 minutes before it got dark and we got a call. The alarm went off. So we met another officer, went out there and, um, get out there, walk around the building, see, nothing's there. And I look over toward because I didn't know that was a graveyard, oh yeah, because this was six, seven years ago. And I look up and I'm like jacob, I'm pretty sure there's a guy. I was like I swear I just seen a guy over there. So we start walking Well, we didn't know what it was, we just this little, this field, and then we stumble over this big rock and I'm like so awful, weird shaped rock. And then we get to walk on further and then we start noticing these are graves, yeah. And then we come up on the one grade that's over there. They leave the pennies there, yes, and that's when I figured out what it was. But I swear I saw somebody standing there and when we got up there they were gone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that grave that you found there. I can't remember the lady's name who's buried there. But there's markings on her headstone that are associated with witchcraft, so everybody thinks she was another witch in Tullahoma too. I can't think of what her name was. I was just talking to somebody about this a couple days ago.
Speaker 1:But it's creepy because that cemetery out there there's not even any street lights around it.
Speaker 3:It is dark, yeah, and it's oh man, so it's out there. Then, well, it's really not. It's not right off of 55, oh, okay, okay, it's back behind, where the coca-cola bottling plant is.
Speaker 4:Near that site, there's a there's a headstone out there that kind of said I think it has to have all the names or just says there's 30 people buried. There's no grave markers. It's actually an old slave cemetery.
Speaker 3:That's what it is. Yeah, it's a mass grave. Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 4:Right, here's the thing. Let's see if we can pull it up here.
Speaker 3:But because I like history. You know I actually spend a lot of time in graveyards when I do family research. You know I do gravestone rubbings and stuff like that. I know it's nerdy, but I like to do it, it's called camp four, cemetery aka citizens.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but that that's kind of what got me into it and I I enjoy it. You know, I don't get scared real easy. Um, there are creepy things out there, but uh, it doesn't bother me to go into a graveyard at night, but that one back there behind there, that is creepy it's a naturally creepy area.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it really is like a kind of an eerie, like an eerie feeling, or do you just kind of feel like somebody is watching you? It's just kind of an eerie feeling. It's very eerie.
Speaker 3:It's old, there's nothing about it that's new. Even the fence and the area around it's kind of old, not really run down, but just old, and it's wooded. There's just a real faint light from Highway 55. I've been back there a couple times at night, I won't say why. So I've been back there a couple times at night, I won't say why. Yeah, I've been back there a couple times at night, one time.
Speaker 4:I went out there owl watching one time with the bird thing. We had a guy running off. He was actually running from us off the Highway 55. And we had another. This was like 12 in the afternoon and we had to drive back there because the old railroad tracks cut through there and we walked through there and had to go through that little cemetery. And it was creepy during the day, especially when you get off in the woods and then you get to, uh like, where the old tracks are, because it kind of gives that blair witch vibe back there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's really creepy, but it says that the grave belongs to melinda wrote.
Speaker 4:That's it wrote. Her marker is a pillar waist high. The line on top initials, rcf. There is faithful member of the magic circle number 81.
Speaker 2:Died in 1914 yeah, I got a question. You you go to all these spots and you do your research and everything else, but have you ever gone out and not just got like a creepy feeling you talk about, like believe yourself that you saw or heard something?
Speaker 3:yeah, not necessarily in any of my research, but one of the episodes I did was just on my personal experiences. Um, I've had experiences in tennessee and in florida when I lived down there, even before I even thought of having a podcast. Um, so I mean, I I do believe in the supernatural. Uh, maybe not to the point of like witches and that sort of thing, but I do believe that there are spirits. And can you give us an example?
Speaker 1:just like a white boy or something like.
Speaker 3:Yeah well, so the very first experience I ever had. Um, you know, my dad and my stepmom got divorced and my half sister went with my stepmom and I stayed in the house with my dad and I had because of the the shifting of families a room opened up it was my, my younger sister's room, and I wanted to be in that room and so I just started moving my furniture over there and so one night my dad was out and I was young, I was probably in middle school, maybe 13, you know, 12 years old, something like that and um, I could hear. You know how when you're talking to a fan, you know the whole luke, I am your father and it makes that sound. So I was in there getting stuff put away. Nobody was home but me. I heard a voice very plain as day, like they were talking into a fan, calling for mommy. It was a little girl's voice. We had a neighbor at the time who had a granddaughter that would come visit her on the weekends. Sometimes, when I told my dad about it, he's like, oh, maybe it was just the neighbor's kids, maybe she was outside. We saw the neighbor a couple days later was uh, I can't remember her granddaughter's name. Was she over this weekend? They said no, she hasn't been here in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3:Well then, a friend of my dad's happened to be over, and he was sitting in one of our our downstairs rooms at that time and he heard it, so that that validated for me that, you know, I heard something that wasn't there, and now somebody else has heard something that wasn't there, and there were some other things that happened in the house. We had some pictures that got flipped around on the wall that weren't that way when we left. When we came back, though, they were all turned around. My dad he had a really good 35-millimeter camera and he used to get the 4x6 pictures printed, and so he had all these pictures of my sister stuck in the door, jam around his bedroom door, and so we left one night. When we came back, all the pictures were turned around, facing the other way against the wall, and so he was like this was not like this when we left and nobody's been in the house. So how did that get like that? So so I mean, from an early age I had a couple of weird experiences then when I moved up here, um, the house I lived in in Nestle Springs.
Speaker 3:I know that was haunted. There's no doubt in my mind. My son's room. He used to sleep with the light on and where I would sit in my office I could see into his room and I saw shadows go by his door and of course he was young, he was maybe four and so I thought he's out of bed again. I'm going to have to go in there and get your butt in bed and I would go in there and he's down to sleep. But I saw a person's shadow go right by that door multiple times. Nobody's in there, so there's no doubt in my mind that was haunted have you talked about that?
Speaker 1:on elko, what you better say no I just reminded me of my, my one experience.
Speaker 2:I'm I, I'm in between. I believe there's a possibility, but uh, when I was living in upstate New York, there was a pond. We knew for a fact that in the 70s there was a little girl who drowned in this pond it was like a picnic area for families, stuff like that.
Speaker 2:That part is 100% fat. It's called Remington Pond. We always heard this is haunted, this is haunted. One night about midnight we had nothing to do, so three of us went out there and we were goofing off and we were being disrespectful, I'll be honest. We were going hey, little girl, come here, when you at, when you at, Just doing that.
Speaker 2:And in a moment of silence. So there was three of us kind of in a semicircle From back. We didn't come from either of these two guys. I know I didn't say it, we heard come here. And we all just froze. And we looked at each other and I looked at one of the guys and said did you say that? And the third guy goes, a little girl saying come here. And we all kind of did that Scooby-Doo.
Speaker 5:And wow, we made trash.
Speaker 2:We didn't know If it was one of those two guys. All three of us talked about it. We all promised it wasn't us, but if one of the two guys did, they had the greatest ventriloquist in the history of mankind. I know I didn't say anything. I heard it clear as day, but it was like a distance. Come here, were you ready?
Speaker 4:to start throwing punches.
Speaker 2:I was ready. Ooh yeah, Were you ready to start throwing punches?
Speaker 1:I was ready to start shooting.
Speaker 2:I thought you were about to say I was ready to start shitting. Oh, I was. That too Could have been a little bit of that too, we were on duty, we were digging off.
Speaker 1:What about you, Tyler? You had any experiences? I mean because you did a lot of night shift, I mean not just night shift, but just you know in high school High school.
Speaker 4:Come on Anything. No, like we all went to the Skidmore Lane thing in Franklin County.
Speaker 2:I never seen it, skidmark Lane.
Speaker 4:Yeah, then there was, of course we went down to the Avoca thing a few times in high school.
Speaker 4:I mean it's creepy down there, like I said, like michael swears up and down like eerie feelings but nothing like david like I think kayla was with me one time when we were first together and I was like it looked like somebody, but then it didn't, so I wasn't really sure. She swears up and down, I don't know, but uh, like I said, the citizen cemetery, when I was sure there was somebody there. And then, um, have you ever been in the civic center at night? I have that is. I don't know if it's just how, just because it's creepy or what, but you just hear creaks and noises and so they have a spirit in there that they call the colonel and several of them have heard it and seen it.
Speaker 3:The colonel almost got shot one night, so it was me, and now we know what happened to all the windows.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so somebody used to take cardboard cuts out of people and they would stick them in the windows right and it would scare the crap out of you. So one day the door was wide open oh shit, this place is.
Speaker 1:Oh god, dude, you're gonna go to this place the first time we get there.
Speaker 4:the door wasn't open but it was unlocked. So we, we I call him like hey, can somebody come here? So somebody else goes with me. We're walking through the building, Of course my flashlight is on my gun, so of course I'm looking around and I just remember we went upstairs. I come around the corner. There's a cardboard cutout.
Speaker 3:I was like well, that almost got a bullet in it.
Speaker 1:That almost got a bullet, as we're coming out.
Speaker 4:I'm checking my pants to make sure I haven't leaked anything, because I'm back here crying now. I remember coming down the stairs and my flashlight it kind of flickers. I'm like that's odd. And then we start hearing it. I swear it sound like footsteps behind us. Yeah, at this point, you ever seen ghost hunters? When he's like dude run, I'm like dude run and I'm I'm certain if my flashlight dies, I'm shooting my way out so I can see you with the muzzle flash, I'm shooting my way out of this plane.
Speaker 4:And then the second time we got out there and it wasn't late, it was maybe nine, ten o'clock and the door was open. There was no cars there. And I just remember going up to the door and I'll look in there in a lot and I just hear it just creaking. And that's where it sounds like somebody's walking right in front of you and we get a call so nobody's available to help. And I'm like you know what I holler. I was like if you're in here, good luck. I just shut the door and it locked behind. I was like I'm done, I'm not going here by.
Speaker 3:Well, that's exactly what they've described to me. I've talked to some of the folks that work there and they said that's their big thing. They hear footsteps all the time and every floor in there is made out of old, you know two-inch thick plank, just like this, and you know you get heavy footsteps on it. You're going to hear it from a long ways away and they all say they hear footsteps in there all the time.
Speaker 1:No way. Speaking of that, you know what it reminds me of, and Bobo will know this. Oh god Of the the elementary school In. Lynchburg, underneath the auditorium, yeah Hell, yeah Scary, yeah that one. And then underneath the gym. You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm talking about oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:The locker room With like a little. I mean it's literally like a, a lamp. First off it's all dark. The hallway's dark old school, 1940s, 50ish vibes. It's completely dark like if there's a ball that went down there. As kids we didn't go get it that ball was lost forever and as of today, there's a pile of balls.
Speaker 4:So when I was subbing down there.
Speaker 1:It's first starting out. I was like, all right, ben, you're a grown-ass man, go down there, and you know like. Because the kids are asking. I was like all right, bud, you're a grown-ass man, go down there, and you know like because the kids are asking.
Speaker 1:I was like all right, go, you gotta, you gotta do this. And uh, so I peeked into one of the rooms. Finally it was like a locker room and the one light that was in there was kind of whatever light, whatever color, that is just amber light, and that was it in that room oh man, oh, I don't get scared easy, but I would have probably creeped out on that
Speaker 1:so have you ever been? That was the last time, even as an adult. Yeah, I was like no no, it's gone, the belvedere community center no, I know where it is.
Speaker 4:But so my sister got married there and of course I didn't see or hear anything. It was just the creepiness of it. So there's like stairs that go down and I'm like what's down here? And I walked down there, flip the light on. It's like one of these little amber lights in the center of a room and it's just destroyed. Down there it looks like oh, it looks like oh man yeah I remember I just shut the light off.
Speaker 1:I'm just going, I'm not even going to tell you yeah, yeah, that's exactly what the gym that locker room. So well, how many podcasts have you done and all.
Speaker 3:So I've got 16 episodes out there. I'm going to have to rerecord one because I told you all before we went on air but I made the mistake of not checking my microphone hookups and the audio came out terrible and I didn't know it until after I published it. So I've got to redo that one, but I've just done 16. I got kind of caught up in school for a little bit so I had to go through, finish my degree up and so that put me behind a little bit. So you know I feel bad that the people who do like it have been like dude, it's been six months. Are you gonna put out another episode?
Speaker 1:yeah, I'd get emails.
Speaker 2:Sometimes you need a uh, a summer break, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3:I was just on sabbatical. We had one once we took sabbatical last fall last winter, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we took a long one that was about six months, and then we started back up this January.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we did Hopping in the holler.
Speaker 4:Yeah, hopping in the holler.
Speaker 2:I was looking at our. I'm the one that came up with the damn name.
Speaker 1:I screwed up. You did come up with the name, you did.
Speaker 4:I was looking at our Because I've got saved a. Google docs are like our set list for the year. Yeah, it's, it's been very busy year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we have it has yeah, on your podcast that you do, is it mainly just you telling ghost stories? You bring in other people who have had the experience.
Speaker 3:No, it's it's just me. I'm not ashamed. I'm not ashamed of it. I copied um aaron mankey's lore format.
Speaker 1:It's just me talking with creepy music in the background, see that's what I like, though there's a podcast that I a scary podcast, and the guy's voice is really kind of bland. I don't know why I listen to it and that bland monotonous on the on the subject.
Speaker 1:Like it works but he doesn't add any music to it or creepy, and I'm like man, this is kind of really not what you're going for. But have you thought about do people email you, oh yeah, with ideas about what they've had? Is that something? Because I know what you're doing right now is the Tennessee. You're going with the history, right With Tennessee Ghost Will. One day you may open up to say, like people, like personal stories, you know?
Speaker 5:what I'm saying Like people's personal stories.
Speaker 1:And then just like for 30 minutes.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But like 30 minutes you could just be talking Because you've got that voice.
Speaker 5:Oh, thank you I appreciate that You've done the voice on here before and I was like oh shit, you put some music on that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I try that. You've done the voice on here before and I was like, oh shit, you put some music on that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I try to be a little monotone and a little bit deeper.
Speaker 4:You came up here to the old. What is that? The old funeral home slash.
Speaker 2:Kimmy.
Speaker 1:Harrison's home, yeah, booger's house.
Speaker 3:I'm aware of it, but that's where I really want to start doing some more local ones, and I am not an investigator, but I understand there are several groups around here that do it. I would really like to get with one of them. We could Do you have keys? We'll go over there after this if you want.
Speaker 4:I've heard the old jails haunted over there. Old jail, miss Mary.
Speaker 2:Bobo's, Of course this place.
Speaker 4:I've heard this place. No, actually I'll go back.
Speaker 1:When you say personal, I will say Miss Mary Bobo's, I've had something weird happen over there, but not like a voice or anything, but I've had some weird.
Speaker 4:When my wife worked over there, we were still dating then. That's when she was just graduating high school. You were probably there too, benji, because I think you came a year after her. Yeah, yeah, so we're. I remember it's one of the very rare nightmeals they would have.
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, I'm like I'm gonna pick her up like this yeah, like this time, right here, and I just remember being downstairs and saw somebody go by and then I'm like hey, and then nothing. I was oh, okay, whatever, well, I go back. And then kayla comes out and somebody else. I was like hey, somebody was just down here. They're like no, there's not. It was like everybody that we've had, like we, we we've, we've watched them. They're here upstairs. I'm like no, I think I swear somebody's walking around down here right now. And then that somebody was like no, no, that's probably so-and-so, miss Brain, bobo or somebody, the ghost.
Speaker 2:I'm like oh See, I got one. My wife and I are talking about going to in the spring, when it gets nicer again. Of course it's been nice today, but anyways, going up to Brushy Mountain, and I've heard, a lot of stories about Brushy Mountain. A lot of stories about Brushy Mountain, Because they've turned into a tourist attraction with the restaurants and you can take tours.
Speaker 1:They've got a brewery in there. Is that the prison, or whatever One?
Speaker 2:of the harshest prisons, at least the southeast.
Speaker 4:Jamie Johnson plays a show like once a week. He does, I swear he does.
Speaker 2:All the time? Have you ever looked in and done any investigating? Oh yeah, I've done a show on that one.
Speaker 3:Oh, oh, yeah, I've done a show on that one. That's, uh, episode seven. Yeah, episode seven was that one and um, that one. I actually, when I did the research on it, I actually left a lot of stuff out that I found, because there's a whole lot of history for the. For some reason that one had a lot of history. The tennessee state prison had very it was very hard to find stuff on that one, but brushy mountain, um, it was awful when it was functional. Yeah, it's even worse now that it's not. Um, you know some of the stories and things I found in there.
Speaker 2:I actually put a listener advisory at the beginning because some of the descriptions of the prison violence, that I've watched some shows on them talking about some paranormal shows, and they talked about brushing mountain and they said that some of the the entities or the ghosts or spirits, whatever it is, will actually turn violent on, like some of the people out there, like they'll be scratched up or cut up or whatever you want to call it so in one of the youtube videos that I found when I was researching, they had a investigator go in there and he didn't.
Speaker 3:he wasn't attacked or anything like that, but what he did is went to a cell where there was a prisoner, supposedly, who did attack people when he was there, and so he took a lit cigarette and he placed it on the bars and he shut all of his lights off except for his camera, and apparently I think the prisoner's name was leroy or it was l, something I can't remember, but he said the guy's name. He said hey, I got a cigarette here if you want some. And as soon as he said that, the red herring on that cigarette flared up like somebody was inhaling from the other side the prison doors are locked so you can't get to the inside of that and fool that, and he had it on film that this was going on and he turns the lights back on and the cigarette's just smoking away. Oh, wow. So yeah, that was pretty creepy.
Speaker 4:I know it just recently closed from being a prison.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like 15, 20 years, right, 20 years, yeah, I mean like for a prison that was built.
Speaker 4:It was like 1870s or something like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's, it's fairly new for being closed down yeah, and it was actually the sort you know y'all are big tennessee fans. You mean the tennessee ernie williams, his song 16 ton. That was written about the coal miners at brushy mountain and then you've got.
Speaker 4:Was it james earl ray was?
Speaker 2:james earl is probably the most famous inmate that was ever there.
Speaker 3:I did get to talk to a guy who I can't remember I went to. Let me rephrase that I went to a talk where a guy who he either worked there or he did a very short stint there and he actually said that the scariest thing about that prison when he was there was not the other inmates, it was the rattlesnakes. He said there was rattlesnakes everywhere. He said they'd come in the prison and the guards would shoot them from the towers they were huge.
Speaker 4:I've heard that was why nobody ever ran from the prison.
Speaker 3:Well, this, it, this was a rumor. I don't. I couldn't find proof of it, but they said james earl ray had several bites when they recovered him when he tried to escape yeah, I've heard that's the reason that there were no real walls around that prison.
Speaker 4:It was because nobody would go in the mountains.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, because there were so many rattlesnakes all over the place.
Speaker 4:It was that moonshiners, wasn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were afraid of moonshiners, I've heard that once you brought it up and y'all talked about it, it was out in some of those things. I watched the warden one of the wardens one time. He said go ahead and try to escape.
Speaker 3:The rattlesnakes are going to get you and if that don't some of the other wildlife will.
Speaker 2:Something's going to get you.
Speaker 3:You're safer here than you are out there, and it's basically it's in a cut in the mountains. So there's three sides, there are sheer walls, it's surrounded by water, there's a creek that runs on every side of it, and then the only way in and out is the front, and so when they tried to escape through the slopes I guess yeah, or ray, and I want to say it was like six or seven other ones when they found James Earl Ray, he was tore up. It wasn't good for him. I want to compliment y'all too on the ambiance here for a Halloween episode. You've got your orange and black on.
Speaker 1:I know it's for.
Speaker 5:Tennessee but you've got the amber
Speaker 4:lights. I like it. It's dark in here. We started this a couple months ago, because it got real bright in here, yeah, and then we're like let's shut the lights off.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, I honestly oh y'all didn't do this for me.
Speaker 3:No, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, forget it then I'm taking that back. Yeah, we did Learn to take a compliment.
Speaker 4:Yeah really.
Speaker 5:I got to make sure I cover this side of my head. We have been suspended.
Speaker 1:The video has been taken down for alcohol. It's been such a pain in the ass because they'll take us down for the alcohol and everything.
Speaker 4:But they'll show anything else on. Yeah, really, yeah anything you want.
Speaker 1:Big old booties and big old yeah.
Speaker 4:But no, you can't Not this sign here, that Chuck spent his hard earned money on.
Speaker 2:Do you have any ideas? You said you wanted to try to hit more local. Do you have any ideas that you may be working on when you're coming up? Kind of give a teaser to the people who are able to listen to your podcast that you're going to be coming up with.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah so my last episode that I just did was on the uh, snake charmer, fiddlers rock that's over near mountain city, um, over by the North Carolina Virginia border, and then I've got three more that are already kind of planned out, Um, but then when I start the next season, which will be um 21. I'm going to try to start doing a little bit more local and I'm actually going to go try to see if I can get some places that will. Let me record on the site.
Speaker 3:Because then, you never know, you could pick up something on one of these microphones and I might have a guest and not know it.
Speaker 4:You were talking about the Brushy Mountain and the ghost, yeah. So I type in Brushy Mountain, state Penitentiary, ghost, guess what. The first thing that pops up is lyle russellnet.
Speaker 3:oh no, kidding, yeah how about that man right at the bottom? I'm here all week.
Speaker 2:Try the wheel, joshua one of our uh listeners, joshua pax, says you need to check out south pittsburgh hospital I have heard of that and that's on my it's on my radar, on your list yeah I haven't gotten into it yet, but that's on the radar.
Speaker 3:I don your list. Yeah, I haven't gotten into it yet, but it's on the radar. I don't know anything about that one. I've heard that it's a lot like a prison, but it was a hospital. I don't know if that one was a mental institution or if it was just a regular hospital but, I, understand it wasn't a pleasant place to be.
Speaker 4:I had a buddy a couple months ago weeks ago, he's actually the deputy here he just went to Waverly Hills and he said that he was a big disappointment.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he said nothing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what about the Lincoln County Hospital?
Speaker 4:I don't fool Lincoln County either. If you go to the old Lincoln.
Speaker 2:County Hospital you might get somebody to say you're crack rock.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, all right, all right. I just had heard.
Speaker 3:But when I try to research places and I really want to convey the story in a not necessarily all in a scary way to you, I like to tell the real history of it.
Speaker 1:So even like with Sadie Baker, something that's kind of creepy but also credible.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that you can tie to the real world, like, hey, I've actually seen that, I know what that is, or I know where that place is. I seen that, I know what that is, or I know where that place is. I've been in that house before you know that kind of stuff. I like to tie it to a real historical thing that happened. So that way there's, you know, even if I am making the story up, at least you've got a real place say, hey, that's where that actually happened or supposedly happened yeah, it says those ghosts name at brushy mountain or leroy, james and ben leroy, that was.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was the one.
Speaker 4:He sounds like somebody who'd take a drag off a cigarette.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, Apparently he was not a good person apparently, yeah.
Speaker 4:But look, it pops back up again. Lyle Russell. Awesome, look at you, man.
Speaker 1:Will you go? So yours is all audio, Mm-hmm. Will you go live? Somehow has it ever kind of rambled in your mind about going?
Speaker 3:I would say that if I ever did a show where I had a guest or something like that, I probably would. Okay, nobody wants to see me just sitting there talking, because I literally have made this in my closet, in my my wife.
Speaker 1:That's kind of spooky though oh, it is well so.
Speaker 3:My wife has a ebay empire is what I call it. She is the queen of reselling on ebay and she's got a whole room in our house. That's what I'm talking about the closet in that room is my recording studio and half of it is her eBay empire. There may be creepy dolls or something behind me.
Speaker 1:You need to do that. You need to put one of those Annabelle dolls behind you.
Speaker 2:Annabelle and Chucky in the background.
Speaker 5:I know.
Speaker 2:Chucky's more the horror flick.
Speaker 1:Have you seen the new Terrifier Any?
Speaker 4:fans of those I've not even heard of it. It's the stupidest. I don't like it.
Speaker 3:What is it? I have not heard of that.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, so it's Art the Clown, art the Clown.
Speaker 2:They're saying like it's the new they do the memos on yeah like this one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this guy, yeah, yeah. So it did better than Joker 2. It's like number one, right?
Speaker 4:now, I never watched.
Speaker 1:Joker 1. So I don't watch it.
Speaker 2:So I heard.
Speaker 1:Joker 2 was terrible because it was more like a musical.
Speaker 4:Yeah. So you're never going to beat Heath Ledger's Joker Not in my opinion. So you're never going to beat Heath Ledger's Joker Not in my opinion.
Speaker 3:No, Now Jared Leto. Jack Nicholson was pretty good.
Speaker 1:Jack Nicholson Don't throw old Jack-a-roni out, jack's just an entity to himself, jared.
Speaker 4:Leto could have had a really good one. I had high hopes for him.
Speaker 2:I think it was a lot of the writing.
Speaker 4:I'm wondering so have you seen the Batman yet?
Speaker 3:Yes writing, I mean, you know I'm wondering so have you seen the batman yet? Yes, so I'm wondering who they're going to bring in as the joke and that joker was pretty good too, because he's a lot the in the prison when he's just got those scenes where you can't see him.
Speaker 4:But he's there. He's there. Yeah, I'm wondering who they're going to bring in just for it the batman?
Speaker 3:um, the guy who played the joker in the uh gotham television show, the red-haired guy, I can't think of his name.
Speaker 4:Cameron Monaghan or something like that.
Speaker 3:He played a pretty good Joker.
Speaker 4:He did, but he wasn't the Joker technically. But that was a good show. I enjoyed that show. I actually enjoyed the Batman because I thought Robert Pattinson was Batman. It was amazing.
Speaker 2:I fell asleep in about nine minutes. They filmed it too damn dark. Robert Pattinson is a weenie. I like that.
Speaker 5:It's cool and sexy.
Speaker 1:It's more of a comic book detective movie. It is there you go.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I actually thought his Batman was really good, when he punched someone was there a thing going pow wham bam. But you can tell he was more Like Adam West.
Speaker 4:He was more of like a younger detective Batman who's still trying to figure it out. I enjoy it.
Speaker 3:That was okay. He wasn't my favorite Batman, but he was pretty good.
Speaker 4:My favorite's always going to be the Christopher Nolan trilogy.
Speaker 5:Christian Bale's Batman.
Speaker 2:Oh, I love that one who talks like this.
Speaker 5:That's crazy.
Speaker 1:I just watched a reel about how, when he was wearing the suit, he always had a headache wearing the suit.
Speaker 2:I imagine You're wearing a latex suit and you're going. I bet it is hot.
Speaker 1:Who was the villain in the first one? Liam Nielsen.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was Raza. Yeah, that was so good. Oh yeah, yeah, I wish they would have. Cillian Murphy was Scarecrow. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I wish they would have done more with that. The Scarecrow.
Speaker 4:I think they played him perfect. Of course, joker. I think he would have been back in the third one if Heath wouldn't have died.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, you think so. Oh yeah, because who'd they put in the third?
Speaker 4:It was Bane.
Speaker 3:Well, I actually like that Bane character though they said he had to wear like six inch platform shoes because he's shorter yeah he's not, he's like 5'3 or 5'4. He's a short guy, so it's hard to be Bane who's 6'3 and big monster looking guy he was very underrated.
Speaker 4:When you hear Bane you're just like that's kind of more of an underrated kind of lower class Talk kind when you hear Bane you're just like that's kind of more of an underrated lower class. I like the way he talked Talked kind of that old.
Speaker 1:I definitely didn't expect him. For the third one I'm trying to think of who else. I guess I was thinking more of Penguin or Mr Freeze, kind of like back in the old school Now.
Speaker 4:Ben Affleck, it's like a toss-up. So some of the Zack Snyder like the original Justice League I didn't really like, but the director's cut that was four hours long was actually pretty good.
Speaker 1:I've never even seen his movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's not bad. What are you going to give me?
Speaker 5:Wrong, wrong.
Speaker 2:I like Ben Affleckck but, what you said do or don't like.
Speaker 1:I do like you like him you like him as an actor or you just like him as batman?
Speaker 4:have you seen where michael keaton came back as batman and like the little whatever.
Speaker 3:I haven't seen that he uh, michael keaton is just a good actor anyway he played the vulture and the spider-man series too too, and he was good in that. So I mean, he's got that versatility.
Speaker 4:Yeah, George.
Speaker 5:Clooney still is Batman.
Speaker 3:Yeah, val Kilmer, I like Val Kilmer.
Speaker 2:I was a big Val Kilmer fan. That was right after Tombstone. He was at his peak. So I mean he could have put on a butt plug and everybody would have been like, oh, he's a man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:Somebody would go because in Tombstone he was the best part of that movie. That's still one of my favorite movies, if it's on.
Speaker 2:I'm watching it.
Speaker 3:I like obscure actors too. So Michael Biehn, who played his Huckleberry, I can't think of what his character was oh, johnny Ringo, johnny Ringo, that's it, so I like him because he was in the Terminator, he was in Aliens. He was in Star Wars, billy Bob Thornton, when he was first really getting started out. He was in Star Wars. What did he do in? Yeah, he was in an episode of the Mandalorian.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, okay, I got you, okay, I got you.
Speaker 3:I was glad to see him back too, because I know that he, from what I read he took kind of a hiatus from acting for a while and, um, you know he, but think about he played some big roles. He played in the terminator, he was in aliens, which in my opinion is the best sci-fi movie ever made, um, you know, and then he had he just had a couple other bit parts here and there, but his role was always critical to the film and he was just really good. I always enjoyed his stuff.
Speaker 4:So do you, uh, you think disney's running batman, or not batman, uh, star wars.
Speaker 3:That could be a whole episode by itself.
Speaker 1:I'm I'm a little frustrated with the new season, or whatever it is.
Speaker 4:I haven't watched all of ahsoka. I think I've got two through two episodes. I can't. Well, I don't know why. It's okay, I didn't mind that one.
Speaker 3:Um, I did enjoy obi-wan I did, yes, I did, I did like that one too but I haven't seen any of the new mandalorian.
Speaker 4:I just can't get back into it.
Speaker 1:I don't know why the what is the echo?
Speaker 3:the writing was rough. The best part about that was the korean actor that learned to speak english just for this role wow, he did not speak english prior to getting this role and I thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 4:Do you think they're going to rest of it was awful 18 percent. Do you think they're going to come out with another?
Speaker 1:trilogy or Rotten.
Speaker 4:Tomatoes.
Speaker 3:That's what they say. They say there's another one in the pipe, but Star Wars is secretive by nature, and so you just never know what they're going to come out with.
Speaker 4:I would like to see a prequel to Darth Sidious.
Speaker 1:That's what I would like to see Start with the books.
Speaker 3:Well, so there's a book Called Death Troopers and it is a star wars book.
Speaker 3:That's not part of part of their disney, okay, yeah but it is about a star destroyer, that, um, they get infected with a zombie virus and so they have. Oh, but it sounds corny. But the book was awesome and I've actually interviewed the author for another another thing that I was doing and I've talked to him about that and he said I do not know why that book won't die. He said I get more. He said I've written 100 books, but that's the only one that people know that I wrote because they loved it so much and I was like well, hey, don't look that gift horse in the mouth.
Speaker 1:Which one is it?
Speaker 3:It's called Death Troopers.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, and it's got like the is a helmet.
Speaker 5:Yes, yes, I know.
Speaker 1:We're nerding now man, we're nerding this shit out.
Speaker 3:I own the book and it's good, I know exactly because I wanted to read this one. If they made that a movie. I would watch it this is the one I'm talking about with
Speaker 4:the hook in his eye.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh yeah, that's classic. I would not watch that.
Speaker 3:Dude that into a movie. It'd be worth watching.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't invite you anyway, no man so why don't use the thing?
Speaker 2:Eat a vine of sausages.
Speaker 4:Eat a vine of sausages. I'd like to see a prequel of Darth Plagueis and all that.
Speaker 1:Exactly, darth Raven. I don't think you can go forward anymore.
Speaker 4:I get it, you were trying to get the younger audience, but I think that's.
Speaker 1:I don't think you can go forward anymore.
Speaker 4:I get it. You were trying to get the younger audience, I think that's. I don't know when you go.
Speaker 1:You can change.
Speaker 2:Hang on.
Speaker 1:You can change when you're going into the future of it. It's crazy, but leading up to it is awesome. Like you said, the prequel, prequel. In the beginning. There's this huge timeline, jason, a lot of dorks.
Speaker 2:A lot of dorks. It's a bunch of guys not getting laid.
Speaker 1:No, it's not.
Speaker 4:No, it's not I would love to see a child version of like um.
Speaker 1:The Dark Raven was my favorite.
Speaker 5:He was my favorite.
Speaker 1:And then Darth Bane the trilogy. Yeah, like Slytherin 2. Yes, like Mace favorite, he was my favorite. And then Darth Bane the Triller. Jesus, I mean, it's yes.
Speaker 4:Like showing how he awarded his purple saber. Because he won a, because he's one of the few that had one, because he won a. What? Was it Not a contest, but like a.
Speaker 2:Tournament.
Speaker 4:Yeah, something like that it's just randomness.
Speaker 3:You want to?
Speaker 2:you could write star wars. Yeah, he won a pokemon tournament which made him the lord of all the other dorks exactly.
Speaker 1:Come on, man, what do you see? This is the timeline bobo.
Speaker 6:Oh yeah, you can get lost in this you said okay, so this is where the new hope bobo why you got to be like that man, the, the three original star wars that came out, which I.
Speaker 2:What they say is what book three actually book? Four, five, seven, six yeah, I have literally what was one of my mom's favorite movies and I've sat down and watched which, each one of them, several times and I just can't get down with it.
Speaker 4:You're an over the rings guy, aren't you?
Speaker 2:No, I watched it once. Well, this is 19 hours. I'll never get back.
Speaker 1:What the hell trilogy, do you like? Then Everybody's got to have their trilogy John Wick. That was good.
Speaker 3:I'll take that one man. Just don't say Twilight, don't say Twilight.
Speaker 2:Oh no that pissed me off so much. I was overseas and I saw Twilight.
Speaker 5:And I saw this and I was like Wait a minute, it's about vampires.
Speaker 2:Right on In every vampire movie I've ever seen there's a bunch of killing and some naked chicks. I got that movie. You know you can go to the Mwr, you can rent movie. I got it. I'm fixing to see some killing and naked me man, I'm so happy I put it on and I'm like I just watched a bunch of high school dweebs fight over glitter in the sun, are you?
Speaker 1:kidding me oh my god, vampires. Oh, I can tell, you did they cancel blade for next year I've heard.
Speaker 5:No, no, no, no, no, I've heard that they canceled the actual blade reboot.
Speaker 4:Really I hadn't heard that one yet, so I'm hoping they do and they bring back snops.
Speaker 1:great stuff was great. I loved it, I actually loved it.
Speaker 5:But I mean, the government sucks, I just you know I hate it for him. I mean you gotta give him a break.
Speaker 2:Blade 3 was my sci-fi thriller I like. Blade 3 was the worst of the three.
Speaker 4:I liked that one. It was a good movie. I enjoyed it Because Ron Reynolds made it funny.
Speaker 2:He did.
Speaker 3:No, Jessica Biel she was nice.
Speaker 1:What about another sci-fi-ish is the Matrix trilogy.
Speaker 4:I hate the Matrix. I never liked the Matrix.
Speaker 1:Oh come on, guys, I liked the first three but the newest one I liked the first one, but I never liked the second and third one, the newest one. I liked the first one, but I never liked the second and third one. I always loved the Ernest Goes to Camp.
Speaker 2:That's a trilogy.
Speaker 3:Ernest Goes to Jail was actually filmed here in Nashville, really. Yeah, it was filmed at the Tennessee.
Speaker 4:State Prison. He's from Tennessee. Yeah, he's from around here. Jim Varney yeah, you know he's Slinky Dog, you know he's.
Speaker 2:Old Milk.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, bernie? What? Yeah, you know what I mean, bernie. You know what I mean, bernie. He was definitely a goofy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, those Actually we got to watch it sometime soon, because Ernest saves Halloween. Yes, that's true, oh yeah, and he's got a Christmas one. He saves Christmas Halloween.
Speaker 1:He got a job. He goes to the army, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, army, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, goes to jail, goes to go? Yes, oh yeah, the camp yeah, I remember the camp one. The camp one was my favorite.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's cleaning the toys let's look at see, that's why I really think that he was. He was the real jim carrey. Yeah, jim carrey was funny in his own right, but I think the guy who marketed that was Jim Varney, without a doubt. See, look at that face.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, he also played. He was the bad guy in Three Ninjas. Oh my God, I was a kid when that came out. I was like oh, Beverly Hillbillies.
Speaker 1:This is.
Speaker 2:He was a classically trained actor.
Speaker 1:Oh, this goes to Africa. I like that one. I remember that one I haven't seen.
Speaker 4:that one you haven't seen that one.
Speaker 3:I never saw that one. Yeah, yeah, there's Ernest and the Army Ernest Rides. Again, I do remember that one.
Speaker 1:So it's crazy.
Speaker 4:I saw a reel, the other movies. Which movie was it? I'm trying to look it up. He said, vern, would you ever consider keeping rats in your bedroom?
Speaker 2:Do you remember that one? I don't remember that.
Speaker 1:I can't find it. What about as far as trilogies, comedies, I'm thinking Rush Hour.
Speaker 3:Yes, you took the word out of my mouth, I think.
Speaker 1:Rush Hour is my favorite, my favorite. I got three of them. I don't like the third one that much. There's one scene in there that I was just dying laughing. Uh, can you guess it? The third one?
Speaker 3:yeah, third one I mean I don't really care when he threw the guy out.
Speaker 4:The window, then there's the one where they're in the hospital.
Speaker 1:When they're going and they're trying to find the guy or whatever in the fighting place, whatever, and he's like where is you? Or whatever. He's like I'm you.
Speaker 5:I'm me.
Speaker 1:And he's you and he's like I'm about to whip all your asses.
Speaker 3:Now Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan together. That was one of the best comedic duos ever. The High Noon movies were pretty good too, Jackie Chan and Golly, if you hadn't asked me, I could have told you. Owen Wilson, yeah.
Speaker 4:Or Shanghai Noon. I'm going to bring out the Friday trilogy just because they're funny. I was thinking about them. But if they would have kept Smokey in the last Friday after next and next Friday, I think it would have been better. But next Friday was great. The Christmas one Friday after next was I don't like Cat Williams and that just kind of killed it for me. What you don't like, cat.
Speaker 1:Williams, I don't.
Speaker 5:He has his moments. I can take him in small doses.
Speaker 1:His voice is good.
Speaker 4:They were always saying they were going to make another one to bring Smokey back.
Speaker 3:but those were good, those were really good. The original.
Speaker 4:You're never going to beat the original.
Speaker 3:No, that's true, with a lot of trilogies?
Speaker 1:No, usually the first one. I don't know Well with Lord of the Rings. I mean I do like the Fellowship, but then there's other ones in there.
Speaker 4:There's only one return and it's of the jedi. I'm just gonna lay that out there I read all the books.
Speaker 3:I have seen all the movies, but I like the books what about that?
Speaker 1:what about the hangover? As far as comedy, the first one was fantastic.
Speaker 2:The other two went downhill.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've only seen the first one.
Speaker 2:The first one, you know it's one of the best comedy movies ever. It's funny. The second one had some moments. The third one I went, we, my wife and I went and watched it at the the drivein and it was, oh wow, this was Now.
Speaker 3:don't revoke my man card when I say this, but the Pitch Perfect trilogy was actually really funny too.
Speaker 2:I have to agree, I like those movies. I cracked up watching those Pitch Perfect oh it's about the acapella singers in college.
Speaker 4:And it is hilarious. Which one's the one that's about the pants. Wait what?
Speaker 1:Is this like something new?
Speaker 3:No, it's been around for a while. It's got Fat Amy in it, it's got Anna Kendrick.
Speaker 4:So funny though, anna Kendrick. Yeah, you like Very nice.
Speaker 3:She's incredibly talented in general. She sings, she acts, she produces stuff.
Speaker 2:Then you got Rebel Wilson, who decided to lose weight, so she's not funny anymore, yeah.
Speaker 3:But those were hilarious. I enjoyed all three of those.
Speaker 2:They were really good. If you haven't seen them, you got to see those they're actually. They look. I, my wife, was watching it the first one and uh, and I was just having to be sitting there and I found myself watching it with her. I kind of enjoy this.
Speaker 3:So the third one was so dumb it was funny, but the other two were hilarious.
Speaker 4:Have you ever seen Range 15?
Speaker 2:Yes, with Matt Best.
Speaker 4:It's so stupid. It's funny.
Speaker 5:I hated that movie.
Speaker 4:It's the dumbest movie ever made, but it's funny.
Speaker 2:Kyle Marcus Luttrell.
Speaker 1:What about Austin Powers? Those are good.
Speaker 4:Goldfinger was probably the best.
Speaker 3:The first one. I enjoyed that one, but the rest of them I didn't like so much. Then you get a movie like you talk about, the dumbest movie ever made Idiocracy. Have you ever seen that Hilarious?
Speaker 1:It is hilarious, but at the same time it's freaky.
Speaker 4:It reminds me of something.
Speaker 5:It's kind of scary. Yeah, it's kind of scary.
Speaker 2:It's a little too close to home.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because one of the weird things about it is the director or whatever. If you notice, everybody in there is wearing orange Crocs.
Speaker 2:That's just so stupid. You wear Crocs. I don't like you.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I have Crocs on right now. I stand by my word the director bought. They could get them so cheap and everything. Because Crocs was like a new company at the time and they were just like oh yeah, these shoes are so stupid looking like no one's going to buy it. It fits. You know what I'm?
Speaker 3:saying I own two pairs.
Speaker 1:So yeah, tyler, how many pairs you own? None anymore, ah, none anymore, ah, dude, you just you've been. He's trying to smarten up Bobo your wife has a pair.
Speaker 2:No, no one in my. I tell you what my son used to have a pair of Crocs and. I roasted the hell out of him every time he put them on my dad my dad wears them, I'm like I roast the hell out of him every time he puts them on. It's the hey dudes, hey Dudes, isn't it? I got hey Dudes, but yeah, no, that movie. I got a pair of Tennessee. Hey, dudes, I wore Saturday night.
Speaker 1:I can't say anything about Tennessee, hey Dudes.
Speaker 4:Do you remember the names from Idiocracy? I'm looking it up right now. I don't remember the names You've got.
Speaker 5:Frio.
Speaker 4:Pendejo Dwayne.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, Zondo.
Speaker 4:Mountain Dew, herbert Camacho Beef Supreme and Upgrade.
Speaker 5:Like it was a funny movie but it was just so dumb, like I just remember it's like you're the smartest person on the planet.
Speaker 4:But it's scary, though, because you're given these plants. What was it called?
Speaker 3:Well, they only drink Gatorade. Yeah, I remember, it wasn't Gatorade, it was called Brando Brando.
Speaker 4:Brando, he was like you're giving it to Ronnie? Yeah, because it's got what plants crave, he's like you're not so smart at all.
Speaker 1:Well, hey, where is their water? Water, you mean, like from a toilet. Yeah, it's so weird because, bobo, have you seen the movie? It's been a long time. You know basically how, all the smart people.
Speaker 2:I know the premise of it. This guy's getting frozen.
Speaker 3:Owen Wilson and I think they made it with about $1.85 and somebody's credit card. That was mixed out because it didn't have a big budget at all.
Speaker 4:Josh Lepak said Dumb and Dumber the original.
Speaker 2:Dumb and Dumber was great Dumb and.
Speaker 4:Dumber 2 was awful.
Speaker 5:It was funny, but it was awful.
Speaker 1:The second one Are you talking about the one Not?
Speaker 4:the prequel. The prequel was kind of funny, the one in high school.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was about to say the one in high school when he was, I died laughing at one part, when he's in the, which is kind of like a relapse to the first movie. But he's in the, which is kind of like a relapse to the first movie. But he's trying, he I don't know, oh, the chocolate bar, and he's wiping it on the mirror. And then the dad walks in.
Speaker 4:Oh my gosh, first shit that was Bob Saget and that was one of the first a lot of people have never heard Bob Saget cuss before because that went too far after.
Speaker 3:If you've ever seen his stand-up comedy. He's not the full house dad in his stand-up comedy.
Speaker 4:But that Dumb and Dumber. The prequel was good, but the second one where they went across country was funny but it was stupid.
Speaker 2:It's Dumb and Dumber, so it was stupid. I loved it about Dumb and Dumber. The best scene in Dumb and Dumber is where Lloyd has massive diarrhea. I noticed a little side thing. He's a great actor. What's his real name? The blonde-headed or Jim Carrey?
Speaker 1:The blonde-headed guy, jim Daniels. He's a great actor. He did a movie where they brought him on Saturday Night Live. He was the host, or whatever, and they were interviewing him.
Speaker 2:He's playing great actor and he did a movie where they brought him on Saturday Night Live. He was the host or whatever and they were interviewing how he's playing himself then From your recent movie and they kept showing that scene of him just his legs going like this Ah, like seven or eight clips, and the best part of it was I watched it with my dad and every time they played that scene he got the light. And every time they played that scene he got the light. He couldn't breathe, his eyes were closed, he had tears literally just streaming down his face Because every time they played, he just got funnier and funnier.
Speaker 4:My favorite part was when he was like once she knocked on the door she was like I hope you're not using the bathroom, the toilet's broken. And then, like that music, like that terror music, plays. He's like I'm shaving.
Speaker 1:I've always, like I said, I've always liked the prequels and I loved how the special ed kids they kept them in that little room like the little barn in the maintenance garage that's what they kept oh because so here it is. So they're trying to. What is it?
Speaker 4:the principal is trying to get a grant he's trying to take the money to move to Hawaii with his like. With the cafeteria, yes, but they have to have a SPED program.
Speaker 1:It's in the maintenance bar they pick.
Speaker 4:Harry and Louie to go find these. They're like look a little crippled boy. It's like a guy with a red wig. Then there's the one who's a school mascot. They're like, look, he's half horse. He's got the horse mascot and they're like look, he's half horse.
Speaker 1:and then there's the one guy who just like streamed football and run into a wall yeah, I mean, and then the emo ones, but yeah, I honestly I didn't see the second, like two it was funny.
Speaker 4:It was stupid funny. The best part of that movie is when uh lloyd was sitting there on that little town square and he, he puts the Pop Rocks on his head and the bird gets up there and she's like you know that blows their stomach up right, and that bird explodes. And then you got what's his name. Who was the Marine? The actor?
Speaker 2:Oh Lee, rob Riggles, rob Riggles.
Speaker 4:He's up there with a sniper rifle and he actually shot the bird.
Speaker 3:But yeah, no, Some of those school movies aren't. I go back a little bit. I'm dating myself here, but Back to School with Rodney Dangerfield.
Speaker 2:I think was one of the best ones. That one and School of Rock was jacked by a lot of hilarious Rodney the one with Rodney Carrier, I thought. I saw it several times when I was younger.
Speaker 3:I that's a long time. That is one of the best school movies.
Speaker 2:I watched it again, probably six or eight years ago, when I older, I about peed myself laughing.
Speaker 1:What is he talking about? The one scene, when it's that other comedian and he's a history. Sam Kinison.
Speaker 2:The one that yells yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:The one that yells God is dead. My favorite movie of all time. I remember watching it as a child Moving, moving with Richard Pryor, where he moves across country and Randy Quaid's his neighbor, yes, and then he moves across country and it's the twin brother.
Speaker 3:I haven't seen that in a long time. But yes, I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:We've missed that. We talked about trilogies and I know it may not be a direct trilogy, but they're on the same sphere the National Lampoon with the. Griswolds.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Christmas is a vacation. European Vacation is one of my favorite comedies ever.
Speaker 4:Christmas was probably my favorite of all time. You'll never be. I'll watch it every day when it's Christmas time. Life with Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 1:I'm going to pull up this video, hang on. I was going to share it with the. I'm going to put it in the comment section. If you want to watch it, hang on.
Speaker 4:I can Life with Eddie Murphy and Martin.
Speaker 1:Lawrence, is this coming through the headphones or no?
Speaker 2:yeah it's picking up a fuller microphone yeah okay, hang on get to the good part.
Speaker 3:He'll get angry in a second here he was a preacher.
Speaker 2:Was he really? He was a preacher. Yeah, he grew up in a very Christian household. He became a preacher then.
Speaker 6:Oh, here you go here, he goes with it if you want to stop world hunger, stop sending them food. They'll send these people another bite folks. You want to send them something? You want to help? Send them U-Hauls, Send them U-Hauls, some luggage, Send them a guy out there that goes hey, you know, we've been driving out here every day with your food for like the last I don't know 34 years and we were driving out here a day across the desert and it occurred to us there wouldn't be world hunger if you people would live with a booty we're in a desert, world hunger. A few people would live with a booty.
Speaker 5:You're a bastard. I don't understand how you live in a fucking desert.
Speaker 3:Nothing grows out here, nothing's gonna grow out here, and he made a whole career out of just yelling at people for being stupid. He was a rock star.
Speaker 2:I mean his shows were rock star, Him and Andrew Dice. Clay were the first two real rock star selling out arenas. Andrew Dice Clay, I think, was the first comedian to sell out Madison Square Garden. He did a two-shot, he did a garden.
Speaker 4:What do you think about the new Bad Boys movie that came out, the fourth?
Speaker 2:one.
Speaker 4:It's better than the third one. It's really good. That would be real hard to do. No, the new Bad Boys movie that came out. The fourth one.
Speaker 2:It's better than the third one. It's really good that would be real hard to do.
Speaker 4:No, the fourth one's good. It's on Netflix. What about Beverly Hills Cop?
Speaker 1:I haven't seen the new one. The new one is really.
Speaker 5:I really enjoy the new one. Way better.
Speaker 1:The third one didn't exist. The new ones. The whole month of October we watched scary stuff at the house.
Speaker 4:I bet you watched Halloween Town. Huh, I bet you watched Halloween Town.
Speaker 1:Oh hell yeah man. I watched the first one two and the high school one. The college one sucks. Oh yes, we don't go that far. But what is it? The Goosebumps on Tubi? They have all four seasons, Like the 90s. Yeah, old school ones, you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm talking about. Why do you always look at me when you talk about old school stuff? Every?
Speaker 1:time.
Speaker 4:We watch them. You know what I'm talking about. We started watching the new Goosebumps but we got like halfway through the season.
Speaker 1:Oh, I can't stand that on Disney. Yeah, oh God it was awful.
Speaker 4:The movie with Jack Black was all right but no, I didn't know.
Speaker 1:I like old school.
Speaker 3:I was lucky that my kids were older than that was at the time, so I didn't have to suffer through those. So what you know, in a mystery-haunted.
Speaker 1:You know horror, you like all that stuff. What is your favorite type of scary?
Speaker 3:For horror movies, scary movies. I really like zombie movies. I'm one of the few that probably liked all the seasons of the Walking Dead, which it did get a little crazy for a while.
Speaker 2:I like the Walking Dead there's so many new varieties now, I haven't watched, I quit watching them because there was a lot of build up and no climax. That is true.
Speaker 3:They drag it out way too long.
Speaker 4:That's what it's called Benji I wasn't being dirty, Don't get me wrong. Now Negan's a good guy, right.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:My wife introduced me to it when they had the Star Wars characters on there.
Speaker 3:Which one was that?
Speaker 1:The Star Wars looking, oh the fourth season.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I didn't really get it, it's almost like they were wearing Stormtrooper armor. I was like I don't understand what this is supposed to be.
Speaker 4:Was that the Alexandria Army?
Speaker 3:I did enjoy that. If it's well done, there's really bad ones out there too.
Speaker 4:What's it called? You've probably watched it Z Nation. I enjoyed Z.
Speaker 3:Nation. It was corny, but it was good it was so corny it was funny. It had DJ Qualls on it. He's another local. He's from.
Speaker 1:Manchester. Yeah, well, yeah, because that's yeah.
Speaker 2:He's a man catcher, baby yeah.
Speaker 5:Man catcher.
Speaker 4:And Z Nation throws you a loop in the first series when the main guy, just they tooka page from the Game of Thrones and killed the main character in season one. Like three episodes in.
Speaker 1:I've never been in Game of Thrones.
Speaker 2:Joshua Pace said he was an extra in Walking Dead.
Speaker 3:They filmed it in Atlanta and in and around Atlanta.
Speaker 4:I googled the Z Nation. It says as of March 2024, the asylum who made that is possibly looking to make a sixth season now, oh, very good, I will watch that. But it was really good.
Speaker 3:But I also enjoyed the just like traditional horror movies like the Conjuring movies.
Speaker 1:I really liked those. Oh, I love those Because they based supposedly based on the second one.
Speaker 3:yeah, I like the second one, the annabelle ones. That dolls creep me out.
Speaker 1:That is one thing I'm like as far as the kids like t as far as teaching wise and one of the things they talk about, like they play video games and like the horror things like the dolls or whatever um hell yeah that's what I was about to say.
Speaker 5:Have y'all seen that movie?
Speaker 3:it's the dumbest shit I've ever seen, and I think they're going to make another one. The game is terrifying, though.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm going to be honest with you. You put the headphones on and, oh, it was scary as shit.
Speaker 2:but here, With you doing what you do on your podcast. You're getting ghost stories and I can't tell you anything me on top of my head other than more like the blair witch project. Do you watch them with a different eye than most people? Do you believe um?
Speaker 3:because you, you, research and a little bit, but it's really more because, being the history nerd that I am, it's very rare that something let's say that the blair witch project was real. There would be a lot of history tied to stuff that happened in that particular area. That's not just going to pop up out of the blue. Now there is a local story that did kind of pop up out of the blue. The Flintville Monster started about 1976, and then about I want to say about 2004 was the last report on it.
Speaker 2:So it was just a short story. Was it like a?
Speaker 3:Bigfoot style. Yeah, it's a cryptid story Showed up would beat up cars, cars that were parked on empty roads in the middle of the night, Do you?
Speaker 2:get into stuff like the Bigfoot more, the cryptic side of it.
Speaker 3:Not the goofy shows.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about in your research. Oh yeah, the.
Speaker 3:Beast of Land Between the Lakes was a terrifying story. I never heard about that.
Speaker 5:Can you?
Speaker 2:give us a quick rundown.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it's a cryptid story, either Bigfoot type or dogman or potentially werewolf story. There's a whole bunch of stories of campers and people who have been terrorized by this beast and there's more evidence that it's true than there is that it's not um, and the evidence it's. It's circumstantial.
Speaker 1:That's what I was, I was, I was listening that one podcast, um or one, and it was talking about the dog man in gallenberg.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so yes I haven't done one on that yet, but there's dog man stories all over.
Speaker 1:I didn't even know what a Dogman was.
Speaker 4:I didn't even know what a Dogman was have you done the Gatlinburg Ghost Tours and stuff?
Speaker 3:No, the only ghost tour I've ever been on was in New Orleans. I've not done one here in Tennessee.
Speaker 2:I would like to do one in New Orleans, because that's an old city.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of stuff that went on there. And they're good, they're very good, they're very good. What's your thoughts on? Like the loch ness monster? Oh, I, I could believe that, yeah being true, absolutely, I could tell you now. Do I believe that that particular story is true? I think that people have seen something in there. I don't know that it's maybe a dinosaur that has defied extinction there could be something down there.
Speaker 1:They're seeing something in there.
Speaker 2:Reptiles will live a lot longer than the true mammals for the most part.
Speaker 5:There's something.
Speaker 2:There's a turtle that's in one of the zoos somewhere that's like 230 years old. I mean they've seen the rise and falls of nations and everything else. I mean I'm not saying that I believe a lot in this monster, but they do live a lot longer. If I was going to believe in something like it, it would have to be more of the Bigfoot style Bigfoot.
Speaker 1:That's what I was rolling with until you got finished. What about Bigfoot Things like that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's the world hide-and-seek champion. Do you see it still?
Speaker 2:There's stories of Bigfoot, sasquatch, bigfoot, uh, all over the world and oh yeah, thousands of years, I mean native americans had like a god.
Speaker 3:That was basically like a bigfoot and every continent has one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like in the middle asia, it's the yeti. And then, yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 3:So and it's the yaoi in australia. So every everybody's got that story. And if you think about you know prior the telephone, for that matter, which was invented in the early 1900s those stories still existed when people weren't able to mass communicate like we are right now. So you couldn't pull up a thing and go oh, I'm going to start a legend here that's based on the same one that they have in Middle Tennessee. If they had a legend in Australia in the early 1800s and there was one in asia in the early 1800s, then there was one in america in the early 1800s. It's very, very improbable that those people talk to each other. So how did they come up with the same or similar story or similar creature? Yeah, if it didn't exist.
Speaker 2:So I mean, I know it by the, the, the legend or the tale or whatever you want to go by.
Speaker 2:It's supposed to be this big, huge creature and everything else, and so it would be harder for it to hide and be the hide and seek champion, but every year they find a new species of this, new species of that they don't, or they'll find this animal they thought had been extinct for 140 years. I would hear that son of a bitch is right. So I mean, I think that wouldn't, as far as you know your ghost and legend that's more of on the legends, cryptic legend side, I think it's one of the more probable you know legends or one of the cryptic things that could be out there, because you know a mammal is able to adapt to its environment a lot better than reptiles, where you know reptiles live longer but they don to adapt to its environment a lot better than reptiles, where reptiles live longer but they don't adapt to their environment as well.
Speaker 4:Have you ever heard of the Hunter Arms Hotel? It's in St Cloud, Florida.
Speaker 3:I've heard the name.
Speaker 4:I don't know much about it. I actually stayed there. I didn't have any weird experience or anything, but my wife swears up and down that there's a ghost in our room. It's an old-style hotel. The Waterboys actually filmed there with a scene after they won their first game, when they were coming down the stairs. That was filmed there. But I remember getting in our room and we had done some research on it because I was like we're going on a cruise and I was like, hey, this place is like $75 for the night, we're staying here, yeah, so. But of course they said you know, there's a ghost named Vivian. Where's this at? It's in St Cloud Florida, st Cloud Florida. Okay, it's right over by Disney World. I just remember like I remember waking in here. I'm like Kayla.
Speaker 2:It's us.
Speaker 4:I hear a gas Calm down If Vivian was in that room. She gave me the best sleep of my life.
Speaker 2:If she was in the room she'd invite her over for a little menage a trois. Well, throw a thumb in, baby, let's go.
Speaker 4:But yeah, no, I'm sorry, I apologize, but my wife stayed up that whole night just whining and there's something in here like kayla. This is an old, old building. But yeah, look it up, it's the hunter arms hotel. It's really nice, but like there's the road's cobblestone around it.
Speaker 2:I mean, you said, the house you lived in at one point you knew it was haunted. What did you do about it? Did you just live your life and just accept it? Or yeah?
Speaker 3:so I guess the and I end my podcast with this phrase, but you know, the dead may seem scary, but it's the living you should be wary of. Um, and I believe that I mean if, if there is a spirit or something like that, there are evil spirits. You know, there's people that have horrible experiences with poltergeists and stuff like that, um, but by and large it's just a disembodied person trying to figure out how to get away. They say that paranormal um, or let me rephrase that they say that places that have extreme violence battlefields, prisons, you know, stuff like that negative energy seems to be attracted to those places because of all the bad stuff that happened there. Um, and, interestingly enough, tomorrow I have a? Um, an interview with a History Channel director that they're doing a show about Civil War battlefields and they would like to talk to me about the TV show, that type of negativity, especially Chickamauga, which is the one I'm going to be interviewing about, the local battle.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Chattanooga, North Georgia. There's a spirit there that they call old green eyes and that he's not a ghost of a soldier or anything like that. Supposedly it's a more evil entity that feeds off the negativity that happened at the battlefield you were saying that.
Speaker 2:Let me make you make sure I'm reading. What you're saying is that if there's a spirit, say right here, and there's a negative area, they will more like gravitate to it, even though they're not part of that. They just kind of move there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so basically sites of great suffering okay again, battlefields, prisons. You know people suffer in places like that. There's a lot of death, there's a lot of pain, there's a lot of regret. You know all those horrible feelings.
Speaker 3:And there's a belief in the paranormal community that when you have a place that has experienced that much trauma for lack of a better way of putting it it attracts a more negative energy, and so this particular ghost that they call old green eyes is supposedly something that feeds off of negative energy. It's not a ghost, it's not a ghost of a person or anything like. Supposedly it's an evil entity, and there's a lot of people who have seen it or seen evidence of it Again, right there in Chattanooga, right south of Lookout Mountain. So I think that the spirits themselves because I am a believer, I don't think mean us any harm for the most part. There are some pretty bad things that happen out there, but if you've got a ghost in your house and it's not damaging anything or he can watch tv with me, I don't care yeah, exactly, I mean it's.
Speaker 3:It's just a disembodied person trying to figure it out. Um, that's my opinion. Of course, there's a lot of other people that may have different opinions on it, but I'm not necessarily afraid of a ghost in my house now if it starts throwing coffee mugs at me or knocking stuff off the wall. He's going to have to write me a check for the damages when we exercise him out of the house.
Speaker 4:You see a ghost walking through your house and he just grabs a chicken wing, sits on the couch and you're like what's? Up bro, that wouldn't bother me.
Speaker 2:I know I like chicken an awful lot.
Speaker 4:Just don't come to the shower with me, because I don't want to scare you.
Speaker 3:I have more fear of the living than I do the dead.
Speaker 1:True that? What about? So there's the Vivian one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's the Hunter Arms Hotel.
Speaker 4:It's a beautiful place in there. It's real crazy because when you get to walk into your room, you don't know where you're going. There's a hall here, here, here, here here.
Speaker 3:I've not been inside it, but the Walking Horse Hotel. I've heard that one as well, it's creepy.
Speaker 2:There's so many rumors, myths and legends that go around you don't know which ones to look at if I was in your spot. Which ones to investigate? Do you just investigate all of them, or do you have ones that pique your interest a little more than the other?
Speaker 3:ones. Like you said earlier, I like the cryptid stories. I enjoy that type of stuff when I was, the only thing I was really ever afraid of when I was a kid was werewolves. I hated werewolf movies. I hated going to haunted houses where they had werewolves. But now, as an adult, I'm fascinated by that whole concept, um.
Speaker 3:So I really like that stuff benji walks away as he's looking at skinwalkers so I've watched some of that skinwalker ranch that they have on discovery channel and that sort of stuff and they sensationalize it on tv. But you know, I I'm also a believer in uh, in aliens. I believe that we are not alone in the universe, and some of the stuff that they talk about on this show they dramatize it to the point where it's stupid, yeah, but I think if you really boiled it down to the things that they've found, the things that they've seen, and left out all the Oak Island, oh my gosh, they're going to find something. But you're going to have to tune in next week to see what it is no, my granny thinks they're going to find it next week.
Speaker 3:I've found more money on the bottom of Splash Island than they've ever found on Oak Island.
Speaker 4:My granny. We were at Gatlinburg one time and she's like I hope their TV works because Oak Island comes on tomorrow and I think they're going to find it. But Skinwalker, you come. You're driving on the road. There's one on the road. What are you going to?
Speaker 2:do. I don't know what a Skinwalker is. What's that thing?
Speaker 3:It looks like a dude. It's kind of the dog man type story Am I driving my truck.
Speaker 4:Am I hammering?
Speaker 2:down homie.
Speaker 4:Hammering down. Nines are going out the window, forties on the side.
Speaker 2:I've got a full size truck with a V8 in it and we're hammering down. If he lives through that, I guess he can just have the damn thing. Are they Skinwalkers? Are they supposed to be like Vicious or violent or something like that? One might have took Ben. Are they skinwalkers? Are they supposed to be like vicious survivors?
Speaker 4:One might have took Benji. I don't know really what's going on out back.
Speaker 3:One might have took Benji. He's going to get dressed up and come back out here and scare us is what he's going to do.
Speaker 4:He'll see the nine.
Speaker 2:I ain't got a gun on me, but I got a really sharp knife yeah.
Speaker 3:But yeah there's. These types of stories are interesting because they're not the traditional you lost.
Speaker 1:The guy back at the pit. But that's what I was. I pulled this up because I was starting to think about it, because it's kind of like a fad or a trend. Skinwalkers y'all heard of them.
Speaker 4:What we were just talking about. They kind of like Buffalo Bill or Buffalo Bob.
Speaker 2:oh man, no, it's like that's good or I guess, uh, uh, if you answer I didn't hear you are they supposed to be like evil or mean or whatever you'll say?
Speaker 3:yeah, I think by and large this. In the skinwalker legends it's more the um it's more like it's a native. When they have somebody that's an outcast or something like that, they tend to take on their environment, and so there are several different versions of it, so they're kind of feral A little bit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so if they was to be in Tallahoma, they're going to take the form of a method.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're not evil, necessarily, but they're wild, they're not tame.
Speaker 1:So they could take the form of, say, a dog or something.
Speaker 4:Like whatever that thing's doing right there, he's getting run over if he's in the middle of the road.
Speaker 1:But, you can tell when it's a skinwalker, because it's not a natural. You can tell there's something just a little off, whether it's the voice, the sound that they make, or their body structure, like I told Tyler and them a little off, whether it's like the voice, the sound, that they make, or their body structure.
Speaker 4:If it's in the middle of the road, I'm just gonna hammer down, baby, yeah, hammer down. What about? What about slender man? Have you ever seen those? Yeah, yeah, I've seen.
Speaker 1:I didn't buy it, I think that's an urban legend, more than anything. This made the news right here somewhere to the girl I said what's up, it's uh new mexico it says that's an urban legend more than anything, this made the news right here Somewhere. To the girl I said what's up?
Speaker 3:It's New Mexico. It says, okay, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 4:That's a project from one of the.
Speaker 3:Now you know what's astonishing about this, though. If you look at, how bad that picture was. I mean, we have cameras that you can see the flagpole on the moon, but we can't get a good picture of this thing walking across the road, high-resolution camera in their pocket.
Speaker 4:Some kids made that to scare somebody, and now they're laughing at everybody.
Speaker 3:This type of story, though, is very similar to what the folks who believe in it, that beast of the land between the lakes, is supposedly either a dogman or a skinwalker.
Speaker 1:But most of the skinwalkers are west.
Speaker 4:You see that thing right there in red, the rack. Are you taking them down? Are you taking the rack with you? The horns, it's going in the living room, baby.
Speaker 2:I'm not the whole damn thing. I'm taking the taxidermy. It's going, that's right, I'm taking a roger?
Speaker 4:obviously roger, I know you do a little taxidermy.
Speaker 1:I need this thing in west virginia I hit him back here on booger holler what is it? Fly, fly man. What is it? No, oh the moth man, yeah, what about?
Speaker 4:what is the devil?
Speaker 2:that's a new jersey devil thing, yeah it's uh, the the New Jersey Devils was in the New Jersey Pines, right? Yes, the Pine. Barrens, yeah, you know there's a dead Russian out there, right, sopranos reference. Sorry, the dead Russian they never found. Sorry, I didn't watch the Sopranos Anyway. Sopranos nerd. Okay.
Speaker 4:You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm talking about Star. Wars. It's about the mafia. Homie, you start getting into the Sopranos. I will talk all day with you about the Sopranos.
Speaker 3:I've seen a few episodes, but I never Look at the New Jersey Devils.
Speaker 2:Not the team.
Speaker 4:It's just the New Jersey Devil, oh man.
Speaker 3:That one is very similar to a cryptid story. It's like a Bigfoot type story.
Speaker 1:See, I've never heard of this one before.
Speaker 3:The Jersey Devil yeah, it's winged. So what is this one?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just a.
Speaker 2:The story always heard is the one two, three, four, five, fifth over one. Over here they say every show I've watched on it it's more like that. It stands upright, got a long tail, but it has the bat wings and stuff like that.
Speaker 4:It looks more like the cartoonish demon that you would picture, with the wings and the forked tail and horns and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3:What do you think of the chicken cobra, chicken cobra, chicken cobra Ain't that real? Supposedly it is, but I don't know. That's a hard one, because there are animals out there that like you said we discover new species all the time, so there may only be one or two of them left, and we just don't ever see them.
Speaker 1:Oh, that Jersey Devil right there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's pretty creepy. I would not enjoy seeing that crossing the road.
Speaker 4:That's a crackhead Running down Grundy Street yeah.
Speaker 1:Come on, man London's just closed.
Speaker 4:London's just closed.
Speaker 1:Come on, Tyler, Damn dude.
Speaker 4:London's just closed.
Speaker 5:They're trying to get to Daddy Bailey's home, but they ain't had last call yet Exactly. That's been me a few times.
Speaker 2:I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1:Oh wait, wait, oh wait, wait, here's one that was like uh but you know, if you think about though, this story has persisted.
Speaker 3:I forget what the origin is, but it predates, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what, that's what I was looking on uh, amazon, amazon mother mother. What a guru hey, as long as you can just look up, look back up to the sources right here. You know what?
Speaker 4:I'm saying You're fine, look up the Chibacobra up there, benji, see what it.
Speaker 1:Oh God.
Speaker 4:So there's a good picture the chicken.
Speaker 1:Chicken copra.
Speaker 4:Yeah, chicken cobbler, chicken cobra.
Speaker 3:I want to make an episode just about that.
Speaker 1:How do you spell this?
Speaker 4:C-H-U-P-A C, then Google will do the no Super camera. Go all the way. Take that whole thing. There's no chicken in it. They were going to give you a chicken casserole recipe.
Speaker 2:Save that. I thought it was a haunted chicken. It might be good.
Speaker 1:C-H-U.
Speaker 4:Google does the rest.
Speaker 1:See, because they're listening to us. They know Seriously.
Speaker 2:I watched a show on the Chupacabra Two weeks ago and they had some guy going out there Investigating it. It was in the southwest, it's usually the Arizona New Mexico.
Speaker 4:I think it's real, but I think it's usually the Arizona New Mexico, so I think it's real, but I think it's more like feral dogs, like hairless it could be because you get a picture like this here.
Speaker 3:That's a poor dog with mange, but they call it the chupacabra.
Speaker 2:But that poor dog right there died of mange. The one that was more in the southwest and they actually investigated one, I want to say, in West Virginia as well and said that the bite marks didn't line up with, you know, like any known dog species or subspecies.
Speaker 1:Now I could go for like something kind of like if you could see that this is a dirty ass coyote.
Speaker 2:That's the dirtiest, like you said, it's got the mange could very well be, yeah, the coyotes are gross as they are, that's me. That's Grundy Street right there, that's me on a Thursday night when I've had too much.
Speaker 4:Have you ever seen the interview? That lady claimed Bigfoot comes to her house every night and they're friends.
Speaker 3:Yes, I've seen that, but she'll never take a picture.
Speaker 2:Let's think about Bigfoot. It's a big old bear. With Bigfoot You've had you know everybody, we've had cameras out and everything else there's, and the one that gets me is, every five to ten years, some guy Some place, or his buddy. They claim they've killed one, they've got it locked in the freezer, got this and they're going to release it to the world for a million dollars, and then and then it turns out to be nothing.
Speaker 2:I think that al capone's vault yeah, it's one of the things that you know it makes the, the people thinking that the legitimacy of it is the credibility, whatever goes down. Every time somebody does that because, yes, if something like that does exist and that you know. And then you have these people constantly saying oh, I've got, I've killed one, I've captured one, and then there's credibility. Every time you just seem like a kook, if you even want, even if you say man, I'd like to believe I don't know if I do or not, but I'd like to believe that there's something that you see like a kook.
Speaker 3:You'll get these rashes of it that'll pop up too.
Speaker 4:One person will say they saw it Now suddenly ten people come forward and say oh, I had an experience with it too. If I ever kill one or capture one, I'll call it off Y'all. Come see them first. It's probably going to be a crackhead in a suit, but I've Grundy Street.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well there's.
Speaker 3:There's one out there called too like the Beast of Bray Road, that you get a bunch of sightings and you don't hear anything about it for a while and then you get a bunch of sightings and you know it's almost like it's just cycles through the legend but I mean it couldn't help that that show was on the learning channel, the TLC or whatever.
Speaker 2:whatever it was. There's the Bigfoot hunters. They're all Bigfoot callers but they never had any evidence. They called a Bigfoot, They'd be out in the middle of this area and a Bigfoot never showed up. Because they had that one guy. His name was Bobo and I'm like shut up, you moron.
Speaker 3:You know every time I watch that I always wanted to play something like what happens in Coming to America when he goes out there. Good morning.
Speaker 2:Shut up. I want to hear.
Speaker 4:Bigfoot yell back shut up. They always hear knocks and they hear yells, but they're never able to get any kind of evidence on it.
Speaker 2:He just wants to be left alone.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I didn't understand that he's the world hide and seek champion. He lives out in the woods for a reason. He's probably a nice guy. He just wants to be left alone. There was this dumbass horror movie I saw on Amazon Prime about Bigfoot and how he had Harry and the Hendersons. He had like a.
Speaker 1:That was actually a good movie John Lithgow does a great job he had like a son and a wife, and yeah, have you. Is that what it was? I don't know, okay.
Speaker 4:So, going back to the trilogies, I forgot about this. Oh God, I don't know. Going back to the trilogies, I forgot about this.
Speaker 2:Sharknado. Oh Lord, Terry did her best yeah.
Speaker 4:Anyway, but no, what else folklore is there?
Speaker 3:So that Flintville monster and the Tennessee wild man is kind of the same type of story. But it pops up like I said in pockets.
Speaker 4:I can tell you what the Tennessee Wildman is. It's a Kraken. We've got a plan.
Speaker 5:You know what?
Speaker 4:I'll tell you his name here in a second. I just forgot it.
Speaker 1:We don't name names.
Speaker 4:I'll name it after the show, because Lyle will know exactly who I'm talking about and he'll say you know what that makes sense.
Speaker 2:One guy exactly who I'm talking about and he'll say you know what that makes one guy asking uh, the legend of honey island swamp monster, you've heard of that I have not.
Speaker 3:I've not heard of that one. Is that here in tennessee I have?
Speaker 2:not joshua. Is that in tennessee? Where's that?
Speaker 4:at you got the, you got that google the honey island swamp monster.
Speaker 3:Sounds like a cryptid story, though, because down in the everglades, where I'm from in florida, um, they have one called the skunk ape yeah, it's basically the same concept. It's a swamp bigfoot that stinks real bad.
Speaker 1:So you're not as a cajun sasquatch oh, look at that.
Speaker 2:Okay, he's always cooking some uh boudin and shit. It's just some wild, it's the best crawfish you ever. It's just some wild hairy coon ass running around the swamp doing something.
Speaker 4:They actually made a TV show about that. It was called Swamp People.
Speaker 1:Also a name.
Speaker 5:He's also called the Louisiana Wookie oh man, what was the one that used to? I like that picture man, this is very.
Speaker 2:yeah, I hope, if there the one that used to.
Speaker 1:I like that picture. I love this picture man.
Speaker 3:This is very yeah. I hope, if there is one, that that's what he looks like that would be awesome.
Speaker 2:What was the one at Camp Willow that always told us we had to walk the girls up the hill from getting attacked?
Speaker 1:The pink-eyed monkey lady Pink-eyed.
Speaker 2:It's a straight-up, made-up thing. And they said boys, you better ask these girls if you can walk them up there, because the girls cabins are on top, because the pink eyed monkey lady will get you and it was a straight up and of course, the older kids started catching up, dude, they just made this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was straight up, yeah.
Speaker 2:They straight up.
Speaker 1:Larry Moorhead straight up made this shit up Straight up.
Speaker 3:made this shit up Straight up. Made this shit up. See, we had one in Florida called the Palmetto man. Same concept, because we had palmetto bushes.
Speaker 4:How many women have gotten pink eyes by helping monkeys?
Speaker 5:Exactly what that? Thing?
Speaker 4:just said.
Speaker 2:They let a monkey fart on their pillow and it's over with.
Speaker 3:You know, what I'm going to love is a hundred years from now. When somebody listens to this show, they're going to go. Is this what they really talked?
Speaker 2:about. They talked about ghost tours and their favorite movies, star Wars, they kept calling other people doors, and then they talk about farting on poop. What the hell is wrong with?
Speaker 3:these guys. Well, hey, if we can send a golden record out of the solar system that's got Chuck Berry on it, then this show will probably survive into eternity.
Speaker 4:But Chuck Berry will probably survive into eternity. It would suck very easy. It's awesome, until Meta shuts us down.
Speaker 3:Until you turn on the Coors. Light neon, and then we're out of here.
Speaker 1:The Voyagers have almost run the course.
Speaker 2:The what the Voyagers what the hell is that the satellites that are out there in deep space Somebody who follows the stuff, researches and studies it in a place I've always wanted to go. Just because I'm kind of a history guy myself, I've always wanted to go to the coliseum in rome and, if you know, if you. If you can't get a feeling or whatever, something like a tingle on the back of your neck from a spirit, that's because there was a lot of bad stuff happening there.
Speaker 2:I mean there were people literally fed to animals and everything else and just slaughtered.
Speaker 4:What about the catacombs of Paris?
Speaker 3:I would love to go there. So again, I'm not afraid of much, but small spaces like that. There's a movie that was filmed there, called as Above so Below, and I couldn't watch the rest of that movie and it had nothing to do with the scary parts in it. It was because of all of the cave collapses and stuff, and it was filmed in you give me anxiety.
Speaker 4:Oh my gosh, have you ever seen pictures of the catacombs? It's bad. I mean, there's bones everywhere. What is it they say? There's like over 10 million bodies buried down in there, just all victims of the Black Plague.
Speaker 2:I know you said you try to stay local as much as you can, but have you ever gone to New Orleans? Did you ever go to the above ground cemeteries and get any kind of weird?
Speaker 3:In New Orleans. Yes, oh yeah. So when my sister lived there, I did the tour. I think it's King Charles I and King Charles II are the two big cemeteries there, because that's where, like nicholas cage, has the pyramid crypt and all that stuff.
Speaker 3:Um, I didn't really, and the day we went it was kind of an overcast, cloudy, rainy. It looked like the start of a really bad horror movie the way the weather was. But I really didn't, just because I thought it was cool that you know you look at nicholas cage's pyramid modern build, has some sort of latin written on the front. But then you go to another crypt that's got like 200 people buried in it because they cremate and then they put you in a box and put you in the same crypt with everybody else. Um, that was built in like 1800 and I think about how many hurricanes that survived and floods and all the crazy crap that happens in new orleans, and so you've got all of this history in this one square block with literally a bunch of dead people. That's fascinating to me. That doesn't scare me at all. That makes me want to go. I like seeing that.
Speaker 4:Did you ever hear about the Rougarou when you were down there in New Orleans?
Speaker 1:No, isn't it real big.
Speaker 4:I think it's real popular down there in.
Speaker 2:Louisiana. They're probably trying to say something else, but nobody can understand what they're saying down there.
Speaker 5:Yeah, we're going without it.
Speaker 2:They're probably saying I want some arugula and they just screwed it up.
Speaker 4:Now somebody dresses as a.
Speaker 1:What the hell is that shit? As Benji's.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of boogers going on down there.
Speaker 4:That's Benji before he cut his hair and shaved his beard.
Speaker 1:I want to grow the hair back, man does that thing, wear in a bra.
Speaker 3:That's a man's ears you've ever seen those pictures of the old 1800s easter bunnies where the rabbit head looks?
Speaker 2:real kids are terrified. That's what that looks like. Yeah, it was a man's ear. He really really.
Speaker 1:Yes, that picture out there.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, now that would scare, me.
Speaker 1:That would scare the shit out of me.
Speaker 2:That's awful. Look at those kids' faces. Damn Donnie Darko coming alive.
Speaker 3:Easter does not have the same meaning for those kids that we have now.
Speaker 1:So now we need to get another bit of Donnie going. Look at this shit.
Speaker 3:That one just looks perverted. It looks like that that's a bad thing. It looks like a toucher.
Speaker 4:That one looks terrible. We need to get another bit with Donnie going so we can get him in a haunted house.
Speaker 2:I bet that don't happen. You don't think he'll show up? No, you might.
Speaker 3:You might.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I would like to go and explore some of this stuff. I've worked with people and everything else. I believe that if these entities are real and I'm not trying to insult a whole lot of people- no, that's fine.
Speaker 2:I think people are more susceptible. Some people are more susceptible to it than other people. I agree, whatever spirits. I know a guy. He claims that in the house he lives in there's an old man that lives in there and you can smell chocolate and coffee and pipe. He's supposed to be a friendly old man and everything else. I have no reason to not believe it. I used to live with him for six months and I never saw, heard or smelt anything. But when he's telling you you can tell there's sincerity in his voice and his tone and his body language. But I've never experienced anything other than the little girl I was telling you about. I think I said I was being a dickhead about it.
Speaker 3:Well, no, I do think that there are people who are a little bit more in tune to things like that, that go on around them. Then there are some people that aren't. I don't think that's necessarily good or bad, it's just. You know, it's how you're wired, I suppose.
Speaker 4:I've never been, but I've always heard if you go to Gettysburg you can still smell the gun smoke in the morning.
Speaker 3:Well, the smell is one, as a. One of the experiences I didn't tell you about is the house I lived in florida as an adult was my great-grandmother's house that I grew up in, so we bought it back as adults. She had already passed away, but there was two things that she had constantly.
Speaker 2:One was sea breeze, which is like an astringent that you get in walgreens like cleaning makeup yeah, I remember my mom used to put that on my face all the time, so it has a very distinct smell and when you smell it, it you know exactly what it is.
Speaker 3:And then she also had these huge gardenia bushes that grew in the backyard and gardenias are very fragrant flowers and they're kind of hard to grow just because they're a little bit susceptible to disease and stuff like that. But in her backyard that's all you could smell. And so I remember as an adult there were times that I would walk down the hallway in that house and I would smell sea breeze or catch a whiff of gardenias, and there hadn't been a gardenia bush there in 20 years. So I I really do believe that if he is smelling those things, he's probably catching on to something else there that identified with those smells, because I know my great grandmother's smell you know, I know that sounds terrible, but I did and you know sea breeze. That instantly makes me think of her.
Speaker 2:The thing that tends me to believe about this friend of mine who talked about the old man he wound up actually selling the house to his parents his mom was talking about one day, about how there's an old man and everything else, and that kind of piqued me over there, his wife, his wife kind of what the hell? Because she was like me, that she never nothing, ever was noticed anything. And he never told his mom that because he would tell certain people his wife and me, other people. He never told his mom that and that she's smelling the same things here in the foot, light, footsteps and the same pipe, tobacco, everything else and and I and I've been in the house with it and he I don't want to keep her, the guys he called the guy's name and he's like oh so, and so's here, like who are you talking about?
Speaker 2:and it's the old man and they you don't smell the pipe tobacco. Nope, you don't smell a damn thing. I, I'm like nope, you don't smell a damn thing.
Speaker 4:I believe it there are some people that can pick up on that stuff.
Speaker 4:My great-grandpa died when I was probably 16. It was probably 2005, 2006. I remember I used to go spend the night with her on the weekend, just because she lived up in Winchester, and I'd hang out in the square with my friends and then go there. But I remember being up 2, 3 o'clock in the morning watching TV. On a Saturday night she would be in her bedroom and you could hear her talking. She would start saying Thomas, which was her husband, that died five years ago. It's like she would have a conversation with somebody. It would be like an actual conversation. She would say I did this. I always wondered.
Speaker 3:My wife was a hospice nurse for 20-something years bedside. She's been around people dying her entire life not their entire life but she's told me some experiences that she had that there's no other explanation for it. You know she's physically seen, you know, a spirit rise from a body. She's seen, you know, a patient that she had that was apparently in life, not a very good person at all and she said that there was the whole room just felt evil when he died. Um, you know, of course that's HIPAA laws and so, so you can't say names or where it happened, but she's told me some crazy stories about things that have happened around here when she's been at somebody's deathbed and has said some experiences that there is no explanation for. So very, very creepy, very strange. But you know, in some cases it was a good experience too.
Speaker 3:You know, if you've had somebody who, like you just said, my father-in-law, when he passed away her dad, he worked out at AEDC and when he was on his deathbed I happened to be there because we took care of him in our house. He was on the phone constantly. Now he was just holding his hand up to his ear and he had no recollection of anything that was going on, but he was having conversations with the base commander, with his old supervisor. He was seeing relatives, you know, as he was passing. So I really do believe that there are. You know. Whether it's just old memories that are resurfacing when you're at that phase and you're about to pass. There's no telling what it is, but personally I think he's seeing people that have gone.
Speaker 2:Now I'm a skeptic on it, but somebody told me this one time and I wanted to believe this. So maybe I'm a little more susceptible to this. Everybody, when they have their kids, when they're little babies, they'll look and they'll just stare at a spot and you'll look and they'll stare at it and it won't be a bird or nothing like that. And I had somebody tell me one time that's relatives or somebody coming to visit the child that the kid can see, because they're so innocent and they know they'll never be able to convey that Only the kid can see, I guess because grandparents have passed on and this, that and the other. I will admit I kind of want to believe that that my grandparents came to see my kids. Oh yeah, they passed and everything else, and so maybe I'm just rambling on about that, but I have, I guess, a soft spot for that.
Speaker 3:No, I think that's, I completely believe that that could be possible, and it gives you a good feeling to think that that's what happened.
Speaker 2:Your family can still come and see you know. Check up on you.
Speaker 4:I can see my grandpa going not another Tyler, damn it, dang it. See my grandpa going, not another tyler. No, like, like you say, like just you know your wife and people. You know the negative energy when somebody's died, like I. I don't say I don't know what's negative, but I've seen the fear in somebody's eyes when they know it's like right when they die, because I, I mean I've seen there's no telling how many people die right in front of me, doing I mean a cop, whether it be overdose, suicide or whatever, you can see a fear yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know if they've seen something or what, but it's Like the last breath kind of deal.
Speaker 4:Like it's crazy, it's a weird experience, like we had one guy who he shot himself and there was nothing he could do. But just for those last couple minutes, just the fear in his eyes, like his eyes turned I don't know, like almost you see them losing their color, like turning almost white, and then they're just kind of gone Almost, like the life draining out of them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you can see the fear.
Speaker 4:It's like it's hard to describe their face, but it's like they've actually, it's like they've seen something and then it's yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, I know it's a little off, but I've read different stories on how true they are. I mean, I know it's a little off, but I've read different stories about how true they are, how perfect they are. Devout atheists talking about, as they're dying, that, oh Lord, I've made a terrible mistake or I'm burning. It's so hot here. Maybe it's just their subconscious firing for the last few times, or it could be. There is, you know, an afterlife and this person was a bad person and everything else and he's been a nonbeliever his whole life and they're now being punished. I don't know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's a very weird, like it's very weird.
Speaker 2:If you believe in my book. I didn't mean, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but if you believe in spirits, you almost have to believe in heaven and hell. In a way, at least in my book. You may disagree. No, I agree with you, because if your soul is trapped here, as you said earlier, being able to go on, it has to go someplace else. Does it go to purgatory? Being trapped here, it's purgatory, right it to heaven, goes to hell, goes to someplace, because if a spirit can get trapped, it's got. That means it's trapped from going to where it's supposed to go. Where is that? Next point?
Speaker 3:so right and it that gets into the spirituality of it and I'm trying to make it like oh no that's. I think that's a great, great segue into talking about. You know, I know we're probably out of time or close to it, but, um, I think that's a great segue into talking about. I know we're probably out of time or close to it, but I think that just boils down to a personal belief, and I happen to be a believer in eternal life.
Speaker 1:I was going to say you seem like you know a lot about it.
Speaker 3:Well, just from reading. But I do believe in eternal life and not necessarily in a religious aspect, but I do believe that you go on. But I do believe in eternal life and not necessarily in a religious aspect, but I do believe that you go on.
Speaker 1:I find it hard to believe that you get anywhere from 60 to 80 years here and all of a sudden, when you're dead, that that knowledge is gone. What is the ones that believe the supernatural, ghosts and everything, but they are atheists. What is their explanation for, like you know, you guys were, you were explaining, you're explaining, but what is their explanation for it? You know, I really don't know I, I don't know how.
Speaker 3:At some point you have to reconcile. Yes, this is what I believe, but it doesn't end there. You can't just believe something and then that's the end. All. There has to be a continuation of that. So, taking a case of somebody who does not believe in an afterlife, there are folks who believe that when you're gone, you're gone, once the light's out doors are shut and there is no more you in any type of existence. I don't believe that. I do believe that there is an eternal life, not necessarily in a religious aspect, but I do believe that you carry on. I mean not like reincarnation. You know that gets into buddhism and some pretty deep dives over there.
Speaker 3:But you know, I don't necessarily believe that you come back. We might, I mean, who knows? But uh, I do believe that we carry on in some capacity. Um, there's too many people that have had near-death experiences, that have explained that they've seen people that they know and, like you said, it could just be a memory trigger because of the trauma of realizing you know you are about to take your last breath. You know, they say, your life flashes before your eyes and that could just be a symptom of that.
Speaker 3:But I, just to me, just in my core, I just find it hard to believe, like I said, you get 80 years or so on this earth and everything that you've done, learned, know, taught and can continue to teach, maybe even after you pass, I just find it hard to believe that all of that just goes away in just a flash. I think it has to carry on in some capacity and I guess that's what makes me a believer in spirits and ghosts, probably not to the same extent as some religious folks may believe in them, but uh, that's, that's just kind of where my belief system is. Um, so I just I hope that when I do get the chance, when my time comes and I get to pass on whatever knowledge I have gained. I hope that it turns out to be something good for somebody, somewhere like, like I said, 100 years from now, when they listen to this show, they may go. That guy was a crackpot. What is he talking about? If you?
Speaker 1:could be. You know when it does happen and you do go say you had the option to be a ghost or not. Are you coming?
Speaker 2:On Grundy.
Speaker 1:Street, are you?
Speaker 3:coming back, not to Grundy Street. Are you coming to Grundy Street, are you? Coming back, not to Grundy Street.
Speaker 4:Not going to the laundromat.
Speaker 3:No. So you know again, it's probably a deep spiritual dive, but I don't think that I would if I got the choice. I don't think that I would because I do believe that there is a next step. I don't believe the death is the end. That's just me personally. But I wouldn't believe the death is the end, that's just me personally. But I wouldn't want to relive the step I've already been on. That's like taking the same class over and over again until you get a grade you like. I'd rather just do that before. I did too one time. But yeah, no, I would look forward to that next opportunity, whatever it happens to be, even though I don't want to die a horrible death. Death does not scare me, I'm not afraid of it.
Speaker 1:I had one, and I had one and I lost it you had a death no, no, no. I died once, but I lost that shit.
Speaker 4:I had heard people had like a deja vu or something where they're like, oh, I know what it was what about those spirits that linger here?
Speaker 1:Do you think it's a choice, or how do they is it? Have you studied something with the Tennessee ghost in your podcast or maybe some local stuff, and is there some kind of um pattern that you see, maybe, how they get? Do they get stuck here? Do they choose, or how do you think? What do you think it is?
Speaker 3:yeah, no, that's a good question and that's hard because I think everybody who has a belief system is going to have a different way of explaining it but for me.
Speaker 3:I really do think that there is something to that. You know traumatic events. You know, if you have somebody who experienced a horrible way of passing away, if they weren't ready, if they didn't have the right mindset or they didn't get the opportunity to have their life flashed before their eyes, let's just say they were snuffed out in. Whatever happened to them, I don't think what remains is prepared to go anywhere. That's kind of how I view it. So let's take a battlefield or a prison for something. If you have somebody who died in a violent prison fight or something like that, their body does not, or their spirit, I guess my theory would be is it doesn't know where to go because it didn't get the opportunity to prepare.
Speaker 3:Um, granted, you would think if you're going to prison, every day could be your last, but or if you go on to a battlefield, but I just, I just don't believe that. I just don't believe that that's where it stops. And so maybe you, maybe what you said is correct, maybe you do get the choice. You can either let go of the past and move on to the next step, or you get stuck there, like some of these ghosts that I do some research on. Maybe you know some of these guys that are in these prisons, like brushy Mountain and Leroy, who was smoking the cigarette through the bars. He may not know anything else.
Speaker 3:Well, at least he didn't have to worry about cancer at that point no, no, no, he's cancer-free.
Speaker 4:He's probably thinking I'll smoke more Riz. Yeah, give me the non filters.
Speaker 2:I can go for the hard stuff.
Speaker 1:Give me the good old non-filter ones.
Speaker 2:Give, give me the good old non-filter ones.
Speaker 4:Give me the good old hog leg.
Speaker 1:That's what I really want.
Speaker 2:What Hog leg? What is that?
Speaker 4:A big joint, oh A big doobie or a hog lick, a big old chew. He killed it too. Oh yeah, he could be a big chew chew.
Speaker 1:Hey, that's some old school. I like that.
Speaker 3:He's probably Leroy's probably that way. I don't want to think Leroy's that way. Unless he's being healthy, then it might be big league chew.
Speaker 1:They should just let MLB players chew again.
Speaker 3:You don't care about it. I don't want to slide into second and third base because you know that's going to be covered in nasty.
Speaker 1:When can people expect we're wrapping it up? When can we expect people to see your show? You said you're coming out with one again. Were you having to fix it? Oh yeah. So, when do people expect to see a problem?
Speaker 3:Well, that rerun will hopefully be done by this weekend. I'm going to try to record it tomorrow night and get it doctored up and be ready to replace what's out there. So if you listen to episode 15, please pardon the audio until I fix it.
Speaker 4:15 2.0 is coming out soon. Yeah, 15 2.0.
Speaker 3:There you go, there you go, so my goal now, though, is now that I'm done with school, I've gotten all my professional certifications done that I was going after, so, um, my goal is to have at least one episode a month, if not two. Um. The bad thing is, though, is that tennessee's only so big, so I will eventually run out of ghost stories, and then we'll have to expand.
Speaker 4:Well, yeah, then I might have to bust the border some.
Speaker 1:That's what I was thinking about, because you can have so much fan mail and bus sprout. Does that now? Yes, okay, they do. They bus sprout our website. We have a website.
Speaker 2:I know, by the way, okay, okay, I've never been on it do we really, yeah, we have a website we have a website, but where am I man?
Speaker 1:but it's got fan mail now you could.
Speaker 2:do we give any? Like the guy that says run extra benji super sexy we get any of? Do we get any of the guys that says Ron X and Benji are super sexy? Do we get any of those? Do we get any hate mail from that?
Speaker 4:guy that wants me to kill myself.
Speaker 2:Oh, you got haters, oh yeah. We control the whole Nebraska fan base.
Speaker 5:We were getting death threats. People were getting upset.
Speaker 1:We just need to come out every friday or saturday morning just like f nebraska, every single morning and just hashtag nebraska football so the guy sent me this thing or whatever.
Speaker 4:And then I kind of trolled him and said, says the guy with like a third grade mustache because it's a terrible mustache, oh man he got really offended and was like you should go kill yourself. I'll pee, pee on your grave, blah, blah, blah, said really horrible things and then he blocked it where we couldn't message back, and then he blocked us. So I'm like all right, coward, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:But here was the thing we had people trolling him. We had people trolling him, and then there was this one more. I don't think she's a follower of us at all.
Speaker 4:I don't know.
Speaker 1:She sent us a message with his phone number or something and his address and everything. Yes, A lot of info, and we were just like hey bitch. She was looking for a hitman. Hey look, we want to just talk. We're just talking shit.
Speaker 4:I want to talk trash to him on the phone.
Speaker 3:Yeah but we're not doing this. That's another level right there. We're not in the Sopranos, we're not going to Nebraska.
Speaker 4:But I know a guy who's watching Sopranos and I know a guy who knows how to get rid of somebody in the Jersey Pines. Right, I'm on Grundy Street.
Speaker 1:I'll take you to Grundy Street In the department on Grundy Street.
Speaker 4:Billy Ray Hunt is going to eat you alive on Grundy Street. You know what I'm talking about. I do.
Speaker 1:Billy Ray's going to get you? I don't even want to know. I don't want to know. Yeah, nebraska sucks. We should just hashtag them. I forgot that. I was going to put a meme out for that, but I was back to what I was saying about the fan mail and everything. If you do because you said there's only so much you can do and with the whole getting people stories, you know, because every it seems like everybody has either an eerie story kind of like we have, or I mean tyler and I have like an eerie kind of feel about like miss mary bobos okay, eerie, but you two have actually actually weird experience that you could make into a couple minute story and you can make a 30 minute segment based off other people's stories.
Speaker 1:If you want to drive about 21 hours upstate New York.
Speaker 4:I'll go with you out to Remington Pond Bobo let's get on your golf cart and just drive around and tell a homo looking for ghosts.
Speaker 2:We'll go to Remington Pond and I'll see if she'll come back out to me.
Speaker 3:She might be like there's my little boy, I'll be down for that.
Speaker 1:I just want to look at this pond. That's it, Bobo.
Speaker 2:Remington Pond. It's on Fort Drum, I remember the Remington Pond sign. It's not a big pond, it's basically like a family picnic area, Something like that. They got a parking area we were walking through. We were actually more scared of running into a bear. There's bears in that area. People leave food out and crap. This is how they've dressed it up. Quite a bit it was a patio basically. There wasn't no crackheads around.
Speaker 2:I heard something. Yeah, I don around. I heard something. I can't explain it. Both the guys were to my left. I heard it come from my right and it was distant. All three of us heard the same exact thing. I'm not a disbeliever.
Speaker 3:I know I've had one talk to me right to the back of my head one time when I worked at AEDC and I'll never forget it. It's a voice I'll never forget.
Speaker 4:So it's creepy, do what? What was that at AEDC?
Speaker 3:When I was, I used to run the officer's club out there, the Lakeside Center, and during the Veterans Day picnic picnic our flagpole had that screw together shaft for the parade flag. It fell apart and so the flag fell on the ground. So of course I picked it up and tried to put it back together, and right behind my head I get a voice that says thank you, plain as day. I heard it and I turned around to look to see who was behind me, and I was the only one in the room. So I take that for what you want, but I heard it plain as day.
Speaker 4:We'll leave that there we'll leave it.
Speaker 1:Allow russell, everybody allow russell everybody, and hey at this. Um, if you go on our facebook page, I have posted his website no thank you, you can click, you can click on it and when you click on it it gives all the info, all the pictures he's got, your background and everything, and it lists all the you're on, all the podcast apps and everything.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I think there might be one of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you go to his website and you can click from there and then listen, review it. Don't be a Nebraska bitch. They did that Did you not notice?
Speaker 5:Boy, did you notice?
Speaker 1:one of them give us a bad review on Facebook, and then they gave us one reviews on our podcast.
Speaker 4:Oh, did they Good for you? Yeah, they rated us. I'll be stubbed his toe and then his fist drowns, yeah, there you go All right, everybody Lyle Russell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you go. All right, everybody Lyle Russell. Yeah, thank you all for having me Tennessee Ghosts and Legends podcast Listen and love it.
Speaker 2:Oh, you were about to leave. Roll the roll. I'm going to pray with you.